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Are mashabiki of the modern "Doctor Who" just outright dumb au is it just a very naive, clueless teen audience?

I ask this for the following reasons:

1. Tend to be young females

2. Judge the series in superficial terms. The Doctor is hot. Is that a credible reason as to why Modern Who is good?! I don't think so!

3. David Tennant is the best Doctor. Have they not seen Tom Baker and any of the classic series?

4. Modern Who seems to be a visual soap opera lacking in substance and depth. Pretty awful uandishi too. Whereas, the classic series(pre 1981)has deep characterization, great writing, superb atmosphere, nice pacing, positive moral message, good acting, and is an intelligent Sci-Fi/Fantasy show.

5. Just listening to some Modern Who fans, it seems as though they've never seen any GOOD Tv in their entire lives au don't know what IS GOOD Tv. I sense a low attention span and lack of knowledge about televisheni history and what makes a onyesha good.
 Are mashabiki of the modern "Doctor Who" just outright dumb au is it just a very naive, clueless teen audience?
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Excuse me, I hope wewe take the time to read this maoni metalheadjay. While I agree that Tom Baker was in fact an excellent Doctor, I have my own inayopendelewa which happens to be David Tennant. I am also a sixteen mwaka old girl, but that has not stopped me from watching ALL of the Classic Who growing up, as my dad introduced me to it when I was about six years old. Doctor Who, both Classic and the Modern version, has been apart of my life and I have seen every single episode. Out of the eleven existing doctors, I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion about which one they prefer more. None of them did a terrible job, and each brought something new to the character of the Doctor that we as mashabiki can appreciate. While I might not be able to change the amount of hatred wewe have for David Tennant, I hope wewe realize that everyone has a different taste and some regenerations of the Doctor are simply zaidi enjoyable for other people. Do not lump me into the category of ignorant teenage girls, as I have seen every episode, both Classic and New. I have a well formulated opinion of the series and upendo both parts equally, but David Tennant is my inayopendelewa Doctor out of the eleven so far and I hope that wewe can respectfully let me and the others who ametoa maoni have our opinion. While I know it may be frustrating that others are not conforming to your opinion, everyone has a right to think what he au she wants to think and while we all agree that Tom Baker was an amazing Doctor, others may have different favorites. So please respect this. Thank you.
nsingh15 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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thankyou for saying EXACTLY what i was thinking!
savourymuffin posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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i bet classic was great for it's time, but tv has moved on. So should wewe
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David Tennant Majibu

sunflowerchild said:
Ok.....

I have seen a lot of the "Classic Series", specifically, from the 1st to the 5th Doctor, then for some reason skipped to the 9th and 10th.....and I still think David Tennant is the best actor who has played the Doctor. If wewe know so much about the "Classic Series" wewe know that Tom Baker was very self centered, and thought everything revolved around him. He was a jackass. Besides this, there are numerous reasons to like David Tennant better than the others, such as Tom Baker. Just because people in this club are saying they like David better doesn't make them "a very naive clueless teen audience." This happens to be, oh my god, the DAVID TENNANT CLUB. Did wewe expect all the David Tennant mashabiki to be raving about Tom Baker? What the hell.

"The Doctor is hot" is a fucking good reason to say Doctor Who is good. Did wewe ever stop to think that THAT'S WHY THEY GOT HIM FOR THE PART? Look, just because wewe don't think it's a good reason, doesn't mean a fucking thing. Stop being so self centered.

"David Tennant is the best Doctor". Jesus, dude....Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. As i mentioned before, I have seen Tom Baker, and I hated him. I much prefer David Tennant. I have my own reasons for this, not like they matter. I suppose that makes me a naive clueless teen.....yeah, well fuck you.

Chill the hell out! I've seen multiple maoni you've put on people's majibu in this club, telling them that Tom Baker is the best, not David. Ok! So wewe think Tom was the best. SO WHAT? Other people happen to like David better. wewe seem to think that makes them some sort of inferior being wewe wouldn't want to sully yourself being associated with.

And, lastly, All this shit you've ilitumwa should be on the DOCTOR WHO shabiki club. This is a club for David Tennant fans. This is a club where people will rave about David Tennant, and tell others that he's the best Doctor they've ever seen. This is a club where people care whether the Doctor is hot, because David Tennant was playing him! (And seriously, if wewe don't think David is hot, there's something wrong with you. xD)

Oi....headache.....But seriously....Relax, go find the Doctor Who club. au the Tom Baker club. au something....Just go away....
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^ Preach!! xD
MissChicky97 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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Actually, Tom became very protective of the role because he cared so much about the onyesha and didn't want to see it destroyed kwa careless people. wewe also seem to forget about all the charity work and personal appearances that Tom did during his tenure. How he worked damn hard to promote the onyesha too. wewe should onyesha some respect because without Tom Baker, wewe probably would have never had your precious Modern Who with Tennant! Tom's era is responsible for making the onyesha a Worldwide success. It is wewe who needs to chill out. I'm a diehard shabiki who merely made a commentary about what I find to be distressing in the Modern Who audience. Too bad wewe couldn't take it. Sorry, if people who like substance, intellect, and depth in their "Doctor Who" offend you. Since that is apparently the case with you, wewe are indeed in a small minority when it comes to this particular onyesha and its history. Lastly, Who used to be a onyesha for smart people that wanted rich story, atmosphere, and strong characterization but now it is a onyesha that has been dumbed down to a primarily teen audience that don't want to think au can't. To sum it all up. Tom Baker is indeed the greatest and definitive doctor and all the countless parodies and shabiki devotion proves this. A vast majority of his stories remain the best ranked in the history of the series. Sorry to rain on your parade but these are facts and wewe need to just learn to live with it. Otherwise, if I were wewe I wouldn't go to a "Doctor Who" Convention because wewe might be a bit perturbed kwa the amount of people that onyesha their upendo for Baker as opposed to Tennant!
metalheadjay posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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I agree. I have seen all the original and all modern episodes, and I still think David is best. Tom (to me) will never be as good as David. But I do not bash au insult Baker fans. We each have our favourite, so lets just songesha on. If people prefer an arrogant drunkard over someone of quality and talent then that is their choice, but to bash people who wish to have a better Doctor (David) as their favourite is plain silly. I cannot say it as well as wewe have, but I agree completely with your reply. Thank wewe <3
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haremaster99 said:
Excuse me?!?!

First off, lemme say that i find people like wewe ridiculous and this "question" Is sexist, stupid and extremely offensive.

Second, I understand everyone has an opinion, but calling other, younger Doctor Who lovers quote: dumb, naive and clueless makes wewe look really really bad.

Third, THIS IS THE DAVID TENNANT CLUB. Not the Doctor Who club. Yes he was the Tenth Doctor, (and in my opinion he was the best) but it's not strictly Doctor Who. So please, If wewe wanna spout BS about the show's viewers, go to the Doctor Who club, I'm sure they'd upendo to give wewe a piece of they're mind as well.

Fourth, Good Tv? Listen, I know the older Doctor Who shows were great and all but, seriously, Tv is Tv, there's good shows and bad shows.

Now I suggest, wewe futa this GARBAGE swali and apologize for being rude. But that's just me.
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 [i]Excuse me?!?![/i] First off, lemme say that i find people like wewe [b][i]ridiculous[/i][/b] and this "question" Is sexist, stupid and extremely offensive. Second, I understand everyone has an opinion, but calling other, younger Doctor Who lovers quote: dumb, naive and clueless makes wewe look [i]really really[/i] bad. Third, THIS IS THE DAVID TENNANT CLUB. Not the Doctor Who club. Yes he was the Tenth Doctor, (and in my opinion he was the best) but it's not strictly Doctor Who. So please, If wewe wanna spout BS about the show's viewers, go to the Doctor Who club, I'm sure they'd upendo to give wewe a piece of they're mind as well. Fourth, Good Tv? Listen, I know the older Doctor Who shows were great and all but, seriously, Tv is Tv, there's good shows and bad shows. Now I suggest, wewe futa this GARBAGE swali and apologize for being rude. But that's just me.
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I think wewe mean sexist.
Rainshadow999 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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WELL SAID.
XRandomXMissesX posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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I made an account, specifically to upvote and tell wewe how awesome wewe are. Thank wewe for this.
AncalaBond posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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THANK YOU! THIS IS PERFECT
InkyIzz123 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
xxXsk8trXxx said:
1. The classic series is up to Paul McGann's doctor.
2. I'm a young, non-clueless female and I prefer Classic Who ._.
3. Don't generalize.
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1. I know that the classic series is up to Paul McGann's doctor but the series golden era(peak years) is widely considered to be the 1970's. 2. Smart, informed female. Good to see. 3. I wasn't aware that I was generalizing. Just judging on the wide consensus that I see.
metalheadjay posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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which would be generalizing
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Sparky04 said:
People are entitled to their own opinions, stop being hateful and rude. Not everyone has to agree with wewe that Tom Baker is the best Doctor. And not everyone who doesn't think Tom Baker is the best, isn't necessarily a teenage girl. I know someone who saw the orginal Doctor Whos when they first aired and his inayopendelewa Doctor is Eccleston. Not everyone is as shallow as wewe make them out to be. And not everyone who likes David Tennent is judging him kwa his looks.

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^ This!! DT is my inayopendelewa because his quirky attitude appeals to me:)
MissChicky97 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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wewe need to work on your kusoma comprehension because I was not being rude au hateful in the least. I was merely stating what I see when I look at the audience for "Modern Who". A generalization can only be that if it's not true. Not in this case. Plus, opinions can be ignorant. I'm sure there are plenty of teen girls who would say that Justin Bieber is a great musician and they would be wrong. It's a fact that he is NOT a good musician, opinion is irrelevant in this case. Another fact is that a vast majority of Who diehards(including myself) consider Tom Baker to be the best representation of the character with no competition. And don't get me started on best Who stories because a vast majority of those come from his era as well! That is indeed the golden era and creative peak of "Doctor Who"..
metalheadjay posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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OMG ^^ NOTHING zaidi TO SAY. wewe guys covered it all for me.
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MissChicky97 said:
I don't think criticizing a general audience for enjoying a particular aspect of the onyesha is fair. And I'd rather wewe didn't generalize me and put mashabiki like me down just because we are 'young teenage girls'. There are plenty of teenagers who have enough concept of the story to understand and form rational opinions.
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Where does it say I can't criticize an ignorant, ill-informed opinion? Excuse me, if I feel that some NuWho mashabiki need educating in Doctor Who history. And Tom Baker is the f--ing best doctor I've seen!!
metalheadjay posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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How can wewe judge that these people have ill informed opinions. You're basically saying that all people who don't agree with wewe can't be correct. Maybe some of these people DID watch old Who- and wewe call them ignorant and dumb just because they don't see what wewe see. wewe bash EVERY maoni that's not yours. You're so quick to judge opinions from people wewe don't even know just because it's not yours.
sar13 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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^YES.
haremaster99 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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@metalheadjay wewe see to be under the very, false impression that your opinion is law. Your opinion is not any better than anyone else's. In fact, to me, it's worth less than anyone here as wewe are trolling here. I wonder what Tom Baker would think of that?
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sar13 said:
I found this to be sexist.
1. Just because mashabiki are "young women" does NOT mean they are clueless and dumb. Stereotyping teen girls is not helping your cause. wewe could have alisema "teen" instead, but wewe didn't. Teen boys can be the same (except with different aspects of the show), and don't generalize whovian girls to be shallow. Don't stereotype.
2. I myself think that DT is the best doctor as a young woman not because he is "attractive," but because he was witty, exciting, and had so much depth and so many layers.
3. Just because wewe think that all young girls are shallow and dumb does not mean wewe can't listen to what they have to say. If I stated in the first sentence that I was young, the writer of this piece would've totally ignored this maoni just because of there stupid, untrue stereotypes. Judging all teen girls makes wewe just as shallow and dumb as wewe think young girls are.
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AMEN
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backflip said:
Are mashabiki of the "Golden Age" Doctor Who just outright dumb au is it just a very sexist, bigoted sef-righteous audience?
I ask this for the following reasons:

1. Tend to be brain-dead sexists who cannot appreciate that the term "best" is subjective and they don't have a monopoly over Doctor Who.

2. Judge the series in superficial terms. Tom Baker is well praised kwa the people he happens to agree with. Is that a credible reason as to why Golden Who is good?! I don't think so!

3. Tom Baker is the best Doctor. Have they not seen William Hartnell and any of the original series?

4. Golden Who seems to be an ad hoc jumble of half-baked ideas and special effects to string an otherwise stilted performance together - one which quickly severed DW from being a publically enjoyed onyesha to a creepy nerd-niche for decades to follow. Whereas the original series (1960s) pushed boundaries, used sparing special effects to tell a story (not to replace it), told each tale for its own sake rather than trying to string along a tired fanbase through recycling, loveable characters and original plots (for the time) that did not rely on an eternal cycle of "ohh bad guy ... (insert tedious misguided series here) ... fixed. Ohh, another, conveniently timed evil arises ... (insert stupid metal dog, and gratuitious daleks here to keep the real mashabiki from rebelling too loudly) ... fixed again", the so-called golden age was SO! BLIPPING! FORMULAIC!

5. Just listening to some Golden Who fans, it seems as though they're unable to grasp that good TV should transend the sewerage pumped into houses in the 80s. I sense a sacarine addiction and an intelectual laziness.
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I have watched ever doctor and cannot choose my fave
benjod12 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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David Tennant definatly, and not just because he's super hot!
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literallygeek said:
Because wewe are a sexist asshole.
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AlphaWolfCurt said:
i like david tennant the best but tom baker was also a good doctor and so was uhh wat was his name
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It's impossible to like Tennant zaidi than Baker. Tennant is overrated. Overacted way too much and ripped off too many of the awali incarnations to be taken seriously. Even Colin Baker was better!.
metalheadjay posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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OMG people have their own point of view. I don't like certain doctors, but I don't go around telling people that their opinions are "wrong!" wewe can see from your view, and others can see from theirs. wewe don't have the right to take away others freedoms.
sar13 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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Metalhradjay... BAKER SUCKD BIG TIME
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makala said:
I have seen every doctor who and i believe that David Tennant is the best doctor. But I also think Tom Baker, Paul McGann and Christopher Eccleston are very good at playing the doctors role.
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wewe are the females I was exactly speaking of. I don't think you've seen many of the classic Doctors at all even the greatest of them all, Tom Baker. Otherwise, wewe really would NOT say that David Tennant is the best. Unless wewe are judging on superficial, shallow terms. I really HAVE seen them all and although many of them ARE good actors, Tom Baker is the best and definitive Doctor. He is the best representation of the character. Probably because he wasn't really acting. That was his own eccentric, quirky self. Even David Tennant consistently says that there will probably never be anyone as good as Tom Baker in the role including himself. Piece of advice for wewe guys...Watch zaidi classic 1970's "Doctor Who". That is the onyesha at it's absolute best!
metalheadjay posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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Tom Baker, followed kwa Jon Pertwee and Peter Davison were good as the Doctor during the classic series but that's not to leave Patrick Troughton out as Ithought he was really great. I haven't seen much of William Hartnell's episodes so I can't really judge.. I left out the new series actors as I was just commenting on the classic series actors.
marifrances posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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@metalheadjay, I have seen nearly all the classics and all the modern series to date. Yet, still prefer David to the others, ranking Tom second. I am sure everyone respects your OPINION, however, they are NOT FACTS. All we are conveying, is our OPINIONS, not FACTS. :)
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rbweasley said:
I've only just recently discovered Doctor Who, and I've just finished the modern seasons, so I haven't seen any of the other Doctor's apart from Chris and David and Matt. I DO think that David Tennant is hot, so I guess wewe could call me one of those 'superficial' girls, but I also really like the uandishi and the plots lines of the stories and would still watch them with another Doctor. I'm just waiting till I have zaidi time to watch the classic Doctors. Hopefully soon! :)
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If wewe want Doctor Who at its absolute best, look no further than Tom Baker's first three seasons(12, 13, and 14). The stories are the best and Tom Baker is the complete package as the Doctor!
metalheadjay posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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If I want Doctor Who at its best, I'll do my own research, thank you. I don't need a sexist, ignorant troll telling me what to do. (FWIW, I've watched Classic DW back to the Hartnell days. I've probably forgotten zaidi about the onyesha than you'll ever know).
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EalasaidWooster said:
I suppose I am one of the girls wewe describe, but to be honest, mate, I've never claimed that David Tennant was the best Doctor of them all - he is the best that I have seen. The series he was in with Billie Piper was my favourite that I have seen. And I am very willing to own up to the fact that I haven't seen much of Doctor Who pre the 9th Doctor. It just isn't that big a deal to me. I like it, and I like watching it when it's on, but I'm not a hardcore fan, which I'm guessing wewe are. I agree with wewe that the most hivi karibuni series of Doctor Who was awful - I'm thinking of giving up on it.

I guess we're just two different types of fan. Let's not fight about it. :)
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At least you're zaidi objective and only judge based on what you've experienced. I respect that. wewe don't maoni and judge the whole Who kanuni, cannon specifically based on the modern series like some of the ladies here.
metalheadjay posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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WOO! wewe go girl!
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noname1517 said:
I started watching Doctor Who with the revival series, but I went back and watched some of the originals per the suggestion of my father (I'd been planning to after I got caught up with the new anyway, but my curiosity got the best of me.) Watching the old ones (especially Tom Baker's era) feels like kusoma a good book from your childhood, au a book wewe should have read in childhood but never did. It's simple and straightforward, but incredibly well-crafted. The newer series is zaidi like watching television. I don't think that the new series is bad, au that David Tennant is a bad actor (I've watched him in other things and I think he's quite talented.) He did a fine job, in my opinion. Matt Smith is fine, as well, though I had to warm up to both of them. I think the newer series could do with a bit zaidi of the magic, and less of the drama, but I like it all the same.
Most actors and writers today will never have the finesse of the older ones, unfortunately. That isn't to say they aren't decent, but art is a Lost art.
As a side note, I'm a young female as well. Attractiveness has nothing to do with uigizaji ability. wewe can be pretty as they come and as camera-inept as Jake Lloyd in nyota Wars Episode I. Not to say that I think the revival actors are inept, but I'm saying that I don't base my choices on whether someone is good-looking au not. I base it on whether I like it au not.
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SherlockianWho said:
Not sure if trolling
au seriously bigoted.
It seems to be the latter.
Let people enjoy Doctor Who the way they want. TV shows are meant to be enjoyed - what's it to wewe if someone else enjoys it a little bit differently than wewe do?
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Exactly! Well said! :)
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TheBirdEmpire said:
Some of the mashabiki actually like doctor Who as a whole (all the Doctors), but most of them just like David Tennant. The whole point of Doctor Who is not eye candy, it's about the STORYLINE. Take the 1st Doctor, for instance. It started off being about him travelling through space and time with his granddaughter, not this dude hooking up with girls with the promise of adventure.
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Did wewe even watch any of Tennant's stint as the Doctor? The only one wewe could even remotely say he "hooked up" with is Rose Tyler, and wewe would still be incorrect in believing that.
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ivylou300 said:
Although I am indeed a "young female", I absolutely do not agree with you. Sure, I think Tennant is the best doctor, and I haven't seen any of the classic series, but keep in mind that some of us aren't old enough to have seen the classic series. I've only been watching it for a few months. I am only on the fourth series, but I know I'll eventually get to the classic series. Also, keep in mind how the classic series was CANCELLED. That doesn't sound like it was better than the modern series. Anyways, don't be so quick to judge and make stereotypes. Not everyone who is a shabiki of the modern Doctor Who rather than the classic Doctor Who is a "young female who thinks the only reason to watch the onyesha is that the Doctor is hot and has never seen a good onyesha in their life". Ever thought of that?
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Well the 80s were the worst years. But that was not the actors fault it was the uandishi and JNT
benjod12 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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if wewe have netfix then so of the third doctor's episodes are on there under the name 'classic doctor who'
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Dragogirl345 said:
1: It's not our fault that hormones au whatever forceus to fangirl over David Tennant au whoever else we fangirl over T_T
2: Yeah... People tend to do that.... And no. It's not a credible reason to be a Whovian. (It is to watch to show, but not to call yourself a shabiki of it.) These are the people we call fanGIRLS, not fans. ._.
3: No, we haven't seen the classic series. It's never on TV, and it's pretty much... just.... hbwvibe8yovbqvyb. I dunno. I've never gotten a chance to see it before! (Sorry if I'm completely wrong and being an embarrassment to the entire fandom here! >_>')
4: What are wewe talking about? Modern Who has all of that! (except for the sci-fi/fantasy part.) Sounds to me like SOMEONE is fangirl/boy-ing.
5: Again, sounds like someone is fanboy-ing. Different people have different tastes. Just because wewe think a TV onyesha is good, doesn't mean that it's the standard definition. But, yeah, modern humanity in general is just stupid like that on occasion. Same with the short attention span. And for the last part, here's what I'm going to say:
You: *points out that most of the mashabiki are young/teen girls* *complains that we have a lack of knowledge about televisheni history*
Me: -_- wewe THINK?!?!?!
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I definitely agree with you! :D Well said. :)
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no1drwhofan said:
I believe your swali and reasons for advancing with it, are stereotyping modern-day Whovians. I am a shabiki of both the classic and modern series. Based on your sekunde reason for posing this question, who is to say that it is wrong for one to base one's judgement of 'DW' purely on the Doctor's appeal? I mean, I personally upendo the show, because of the Doc's relationship with various companions, the compelling storylines, the antagonists...
Regarding your third point, it is a matter of opinion as to who the best Doctor is. In my opinion, it goes like this:
1. David Tennant;
2. Tom Baker;
3. Patrick Troughton;
4. Jon Pertwee;
5. Christopher Eccleston;
6. William Hartnell;
7. Matt Smith;
8. Colin Baker;
9. Peter Davison.

I have not yet encountered Seven au Eight. I am aware many will disagree with my rankings of the Doctor's incarnations, but that does not mean they are 'outright dumb' au wrong; it's their opinion!
I believe your final point is quite strong, as the entire point of human beings, is that we are all unique and possess the minds to determine our likes and dislikes.
Therefore, my answer to your swali is: neither; it is a matter of opinion, that forms the judgement of modern-day DW' fans-notwithstanding their not being classic fans.
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I upendo all the actors who have portrayed the doctor. I have no fave - they are all equally as good
benjod12 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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:D
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starsarefire said:
Oi, what is with die-hard Classic Who mashabiki and their need to criticize and insult anyone who prefers the newer episodes?

Look. I started out with David Tennant, and he is my inayopendelewa Doctor for many reasons, but I've also went back and saw most of the older episodes as well. And while I did enjoy a great deal of them (Troughton and T. Baker especially), I hardly found them to be any better than the 'reboot'.

Deep characterization? With the exception of The Doctor, Sarah Jane, Jamie, The Brig, and Ace . . . the characterization was not great (sorry). Most of the companions were just there to look cute in a skimpy outfit. Leela could have been an interesting character, but she was reduced to the typical sexy badass who likes to kill - sexily. And the Master, who has become one of the most psychologically complex adversaries to tarehe during the RTD era, was nothing zaidi than a cookie-cutter villain - goatee and all.

Great writing? Okay, yes, there have been some modern stinkers. But between 1963-1996, they haven't all exactly been gems. Particularly from the 80s onward. Most of it (excluding Douglas Adams' contributions) was flat-out cringe worthy. Sylvester McCoy got the real short stick with that. I mean, when the classic stories were good, they were AMAZING. But when they weren't ... Bleh.

As for the atmosphere, pacing, message, and intelligence, they have been some of the biggest improvements over the hivi karibuni years. Before it was mostly good, fun sci-fi. Now it's evolved to be a really gripping, almost cinematic tv-drama full of complex relationships, ingenuitive and inventive stories, and inspiring themes (everyone's important, wewe don't need to solve your problems with violence and hate, etc.). [The anti-violence bit was around for most of the show, but it's never been as concrete as it is now]

It sounds like I'm knocking Classic Who, but all I'm trying to do is defend the new series. As someone who wasn't even alive during the classic era, I don't have that sense of nostalgia that seems to be blinding certain Whovians to how much the onyesha truly has improved. And I upendo the old stories too. They have this undeniable charm to them that's unmatched, and that's probably how the onyesha has lasted so long. But I also think that it's unfair to condemn the hivi karibuni Doctors and their mashabiki on the basis of being 'new'.

There's some real good quality tv that you're missing out on because of your bias. wewe should keep your mind open and give it another chance. wewe powered through Adric, and Colin Baker, and those God-awful 80s sci-fi cliches. How is this any worse?

As for why many people - including myself - favour David Tennant's Doctor? Yes, there are those who might just fancy him for his looks (did that not happen with Peter Davison?). But zaidi importantly, Ten is just so LIKEABLE. He's fun and energetic, passionate, zany, heroic, empathetic ... I could go on. (rant to be continued)
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Ten is also extraordinarily emotionaly intricate, making him both vulnerable and unpredictable, making for some great character development. Plus, Tennant is just a power-house actor.
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wewe have every right to your opinion, but don't go turning up your nose at everyone who doesn't share it. It's the same show. The same character. Try to embrace the change.
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benjod12 said: I think it is unfair to name one Doctor better than the other as every actor who portrayed the Doctor did well. The only things that let the 80's down was JNT and the uandishi not the actors even though i hate Peri. I know i am 16, but i have watched 95% Who now and i enjoy every doctor. Just unfair to prefer one over the other. Hurts the actors feelings.
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Hibernia said:
What most annoys me is when people claim to be "fans" of Doctor Who without having ever seen an episode of the classic series. The New Series makes up only 15% of Doctor Who - these modern mashabiki disregard at least 85% of the show. That doesn't include vitabu and/or audios, either.
They don't know the meaning of the word fan.
I didn't mind Tennant, but my favourite Doctor will always be Tom Baker.
I'm 16.


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Totally agree - but it is still unfair to name one better than the other as each actor who portrayed the Doctor did a good job at it. The only things let down the 80's was not the actors it was JNT and the writers. However Baker was my first, and i upendo him i also like Pertwee and Troughton with Smith and Tennant. I just upendo watching every actor playing the doctor.
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benjod12 said:
I think it is unfair to name one Doctor better than the other as every actor who portrayed the Doctor did well. The only things that let the 80's down was JNT and the uandishi not the actors even though i hate Peri. I know i am 16, but i have watched 95% Who now and i enjoy every doctor. Just unfair to prefer one over the other. Hurts the actors feelings.
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jakeyzor said:
Between the being outright dumb and naive, mashabiki of the new who are probably zaidi towards the naive side of things however, it does kubeba mentioning that several people, including myself, have seen both "series" and respect David Tennant's Doctor as a well executed role. He may not be the "best" as a lot of Doctor-Debate falls within the realm of personal preference. I absolutely agree with the soap-opera bits, though i would argue that the new who does have its moments, for example "Waters of Mars" leans away from the soap-y format they had fallen into, being a movie. In conclusion, don't judge the modern Who audience on the fangirl portion, who have mostly only watched Who for its attractive men.
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Besides, there's always one attract person on Doctor Who, it's not our fault Steven Moffat choose men that we like.
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Steven Moffat didn't choose David Tennant for Doctor Who. Russel T. Davies chose him after his stallar performance as Casanova. It's also quite insulting to ASSume that every. single. person. who likes David Tennant is a naive, simpering fifteen mwaka old. I'm a matutre woman and I upendo the new and old series. I'm sorry to say, those who are here, insulting people and deriding those who prefer the new series, are the one looking foolish.
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Rainshadow999 said:
What the Hell?!?!?!?! My brother watches that show! Seriously, that is very sexist! I don't watch Doctor Who because Matt Smith is attractive (well yes, but no) I watch Doctor Who because of the reason we all upendo sci-go shows, time travelling! Aliens! Science!

My best Marafiki are REALLY REALLY smart, and guess what? They're watching Doctor Who!
Oh yes, my Marafiki are stupid because they watch Doctor Who and excel in yearr 11 Maths classes when they're mwaka 10's.
And what else do I watch?
- Penguins of Madagascar
- CSI
- CSI NY
- CSI Miami
- NCIS
- NCIS LA
- The Mentalist
- Supernatural

Technically I DON'T watch tv because of hot guys, I like Doctor Who as much as my brother, and I am NOT STUPID!!

I don't lack televisheni history, in fact I take Doctor Who chemsha bongo on Fanpop. To add to all this, I read Doctor Who fanfiction as well. And I don't care what wewe say, I think Matt Smith is an awesome actor who portrays intelligence and personality, he is one of the funniest men I've heard of.
Who's my inayopendelewa comedian? Ricky Gervais. Now please don't tell me that I like him because of his looks, that's very wrong. Also, I like how intelligent Stephen Hawking is, judging someone on how they look is unacceptable.

Don't be sexist, yes I'm 14, I count as "young females".

Thank wewe for reading. :D
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drhpfantng said:
I also get a bit annoyed when I meet a fellow Whovian (which isn't very often) just to find out that they have only seen NuWho and do not plan on watching ClassicWho. Yes, the typical "fangirl" audience is pretty much like wewe describe, and no, they are not real mashabiki -- Just David Tennant fangirls who only watch the onyesha for him. We don't need those fans. And, honestly, we don't really need mashabiki like you, either, if wewe think of Doctor Who the way wewe say wewe do. David Tennant played a good Doctor. I like his portrayal. That does not make someone a bad fan. wewe call mashabiki of only a select number of Doctors "naïve" and "clueless", and yet wewe do the same thing. I don't mean to preach (too late), but even though I agree that some mashabiki are not real fans, I also think that the Doctor is the Doctor. It's all the same cannon, and if wewe hate on one of him, wewe hate on all of him.
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Dracen said:
1. I am 30 not that young.
2. I upendo Dr. Who because from the very beginning he is the answer to making History fun. I wish I had known the series when I was younger.
3. I have seen Tom and the wonderful scarf. I have also seen one, I don't remember who the actor was off the juu of my head at 3:30 am but he was being called, "Merlin" David Tennant just ads something for the women to be drawn in to Sci-Fi.
4. Sadly many things change and especially with the change in culture. What was once will never be again however none the less History still repeats itself not to sure how the flip side comes... but just remember this celery is cool and that is all.
5. Perhaps wewe might not remember but your parents might have thought the same about you. I used to listen to the Backstreet Boys (confesses still have one of their CDs some where) and Hanson, and my parents looked at me like how do wewe listen to that crap. I think it is that exact same look I give the teeny boppers when they go ga-ga over Justin Bieber....
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ImBrilliant said:
First, wewe can't possibly know that most New Who mashabiki are females, and if wewe believe that wewe do, than, well, pics au it didn't happen.
Second, as young, rather intelligent male, I actually prefer New Who for being just as intelligent, just as clever, just as poignant as Classic Who, but also for looking zaidi realistic, making the suspension of disbelief easier.
Third, David Tennant displayed a brilliant rage of emotion within a well developed character, don't get me wrong, I like Tom Baker, but David Tennant is unequivocally the best Doctor.
Fourth, like I alisema before, New Who shows all the nuance of Classic Who in prettier packaging, and if wewe disagree, well, too bad for you, you're wrong.
Fifth, oh don't bring up that subjective nonsense. Most old televisheni shows are rubbish. Which isn't to say modern televisheni isn't rubbish, a large amount of it is, but the point is it always has been and always will be- it's directed to the masses, the easily distracted, barely educated masses.
Finally, I'd like to say that if you're going to be the grumpy old man telling the neighborhood kids to get off his lawn, than wewe should probably confine it to just that, your yard. The rest of us perfectly intelligent people, young and old, would like to enjoy our onyesha without wewe getting your misery all over it.
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VBadwolf said:
I'm so glad to hear about that. I totally agree with you. Jon Pertwee is my favourite doctor of all time. William Hartnell, Tom Baker and Patrick Troughton are certainly zaidi better than David Tennant. I'm sick and tired of modern doctor who fans. I know why many teens and shabiki girls are attracted to young the doctor like David and Matt. Modern fans, they don't know anything about classic, it is really shameful. Look like they are not real doctor who fans.
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It's easy go and watch Classic Who... and stop watching New Who... u were doing me, the 42 Years old lady, and the "teenager", a favor
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megan4097 said:
Are mashabiki of the classic "Doctor Who" just outright pretentious dickholes au is it just a very close minded hipster audience?

See what I did there? The truth is, we can make generalizations all siku but in the end we all come out looking like ostentatious fools simply because we all believe "Our Doctor" is the best Doctor. Is it really that difficult to upendo them all? I find it hard to believe that anyone is a true "Who" shabiki when they take issue with any actors portrayal of the Doctor. Stories are meant to develop and change, and the characters with it. I think every one of them has brought something invaluable to the series, I for one am glad that the Doctor and his companions are ever changing, growing, and evolving. Classic and modern are both brilliant in their own respects, and I wouldn't change a thing.
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XRandomXMissesX said:
No were not dumb. Were just younger than wewe and part of the new generation. If wewe don't like us and decide to call us dumb, naive and clueless then your not a proper Doctor Who shabiki as us younger PROPER Doctor Who mashabiki don't insult each other and call each other names because we are zaidi mature. So no, it is just wewe who is being dumb and naive. No one else. You. Rant over.
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savourymuffin said:
wewe really shouldn't have generalized your question, honestly it is just rude. I have seen each and every series of doctor who and have been a shabiki since i was 16 years old, while I agree that Tom Baker was an amazing doctor I still rank him as sekunde to David Tennant. David brought so much fun, excitement and emotion to Doctor Who that wewe cannot discount his efforts simply because he is a good looking man! David has so many mashabiki because he was an incredible doctor and an incredible actor, he could look like a frog for all his mashabiki would care as long as he kept his uigizaji skills. While Tom Baker has many mashabiki and will always be remembered as a Doctor Who legend do not claim other people's opinions to be wrong just because they don't match your own.
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spiffybaker said:
Excuse you! Review your reasoning, because it is incredibly faulty. Did wewe not watch Blink? This onyesha has some of the most well-thought out episodes I've ever seen. What wewe seem to not understand is that the faster pacing also has room for everyone to develop. au did wewe not watch Rose during the series at all? Did wewe not watch the Doctor at all? For your info, I don't believe Eccleston au Tennant is "hot." So that's struck down. As for all the reasons, I see good pacing, brilliant atmosphere, all that. Except excuse wewe mate. wewe determine a good onyesha depending on whether the morals line up with yours? Well then I can't do anything, because wewe have a serious case of closed-mindedness. And wait just a minute. What's a smart adult like wewe with such fabulous taste doing on fanpop in the first place? Hm? I'm confused.
But overall, stop and consider your words. Do wewe realize how judgmental you're being kwa criticizing someone else's taste and automatically lumping them into a group of "stupid?"
Your sensing is zaidi like a serious case of opinion-forcing.
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FiveyFighting said:
I'm a 16 mwaka old boy kwa the way, and tend to like Classic Who better.

"Modern Who seems to be a visual soap opera lacking in substance and depth. Pretty awful uandishi too. Whereas, the classic series(pre 1981)has deep characterization, great writing, superb atmosphere, nice pacing, positive moral message, good acting, and is an intelligent Sci-Fi/Fantasy show. "

- Although I agree that modern who is zaidi drama than sci-fi, and I upendo Classic Who, i have NEVER in the 21st century heard somebody claim it had nice pacing au superb atmosphere. The uigizaji and uandishi IS gorgeous, but after that you're just trying to sugar kanzu, koti the shit out of it.
- The Moral message has always stayed the same despite the Doctor's character moving far zaidi towards romantic involvement with other characters. It has not clouded the moral focus of the show, simply appealed to new audiences (which is NOT a bad thing)

"David Tennant is the best Doctor. Have they not seen Tom Baker and any of the classic series? "

- wewe liking Tom Baker better is in no way proof that it's a 'naive clueless teen audience'. David Tennant was fucking fantastic. He's the best actor to have ever played the Doctor even if many people are zaidi affectionate towards Tom Baker's episodes. Personally my favourite is Peter Davison, but that says nothing about the fanbase at large, and nor does yours au the that of the 'majority' that wewe seem to have made up.

Don't let traditionalism draw wewe in. Classic Who is fantastic, and doesn't need to be compared to New Who, and nor do their fanbases.
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jjroxursox said:
'Excuse me bitch?' was my first reaction to this post.
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mine too!
karogers posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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Same here!
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amen
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DrWhovian said:
Alright, just to start off, I'm a 22 mwaka old man. I have seen almost all of the Doctor Who episodes and in my opinion, David Tennant is the best Doctor. He brought such emotional diversity, he was so immersed in his role that he drew wewe into the show. He worked hard to portray the Doctor exactly the way I feel it should've been. He was perfectly eccentric and serious when needed. I actually read today that David Tennant brought the most viewers ever to the show. I also read that David Tennant is the reason Doctor Who has reached its imminent status it has reached in television. Now if wewe were bashing Matt Smith, I would be right kwa your side because I feel like the onyesha was horrible for his tenure.
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thegirlwhowait said:
Every one has different reasons to like the show. If some like to watch it because the doctor is hot, then that is their problem not yours and wewe shouldn't judge them.
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grandwhovian said:
1. there is nothing wrong with a shabiki being young, being female au being a young female
2. I am a 15 mwaka old girl who doesn't judge the series in superficial terms. I'm glad that we now have an older Doctor (now mind wewe I have no issues with attractive Doctors but I really don't care much about looks) I do happen to think that David Tennant is hot but that isn't why I watch the onyesha (it's just a bonus)
3. I don't think David Tennant is the best (he's actually pretty low on my list, but I do like him/his Doctor thought) the earliest of classic Doctors and 7 and 8 are the highest up on my list. I haven't seen all of the classic series but I have seen a lot
4. I like the classic and new series (so I don't fully agree on this point) but I will admit to preferring classic who
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kay_reb said:
Lol ... I find it hilarious that wewe would begin a war with people who prefer a different season of a onyesha wewe like. Seriously, that's pretty much what you're doing. It's like screaming at people for liking season 10 of law & order zaidi than season 1. There's no logic in that. Doctor Who episodes are just another story on another siku that just happens to have a cast change every once in a while. Sounds a lot like a soap opera right? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE HELL IT IS. How can wewe complain about it becoming something it was meant to be in the first place? Who the f*** cares who is playing the Doctor at what time? Why does it matter who did what better? At the end of the day, he is the same character in a different body. If wewe really feel the need to rampage because wewe think the onyesha has turned to crap, then stop watching and complain to people who give a flying f***. No one likes whiner. I prefer Matt Smith but wewe don't see me on here bashing people for liking David the most, do you? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T F****** MATTER WHO PEOPLE LIKE MORE. SO F*** OFF AND TURN OFF YOUR BLOODY TV IF wewe DON'T LIKE IT. How's that for a modern who fan!? GERONIMO. B****.
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anonymous2 said:
I understand this is your opinion, but it is rude, and I have to say something.
Not all shabiki are either. though there are probably some.

1. Not all for us a female. The two people who introduced me are both male. Not to mention that 3 au 4out of the  6 (that I know of) mashabiki I know are male.

2. I don't watch it because 'The Doctor is hot' I watch it  because of many other different factors. Also I do not find The Doctor 'hot', I find him zaidi of a good friend wewe can trust on making wewe feel better.

3. I, personally, have not watched the classics, therefore I can not say  which I think is the better Doctor. For now, to me, David Tennant is.

4. I did not fully understand this part clrealy,for I am young, but from what I do understand, I think that the modren series have all those parts mentioned, in them. Again, I can not say which presents those better for I have not watch the classics.

5. I have a long attention span when it comes to most things, wewe can not say many people are like some thing if wewe only talk to a few. I do not know the history of televisheni because it is not an area I am interested in and it has not been taught at school yet. When it comes to a good show, I think, is is zaidi of preferences  than other things. For example wewe could like something I don't, and I would not think it is a good onyesha but wewe do.

Thank you.

I am sorry if there are any grammar, word choose, au spelling problems. Also, If wewe don't understand what I am saying.
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dpru93 said:
Well....I don't think wewe could class most of the modern siku audience as true Whovians, as most won't have watched much of the classic series. Therefore they can only judge on what they have seen. Tennant is the best of the 3 doctors of the modern era. However, in my opinion, it goes.....

Tom Baker
Jon Pertwee
David Tennant
Patrick Troughton
Christopher Eccleston
William Hartnell
Matt Smith
Peter Davison
Paul McGann
Sylvester McCoy
Colin Baker
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shreya615 said:
I see that wewe defend your viewpoint kwa saying that some people can be quite ignorant and that wewe are not being rude, in anyway at all. Pardon me for saying this, but calling people "outright dumb" is rather rude.
People like David Tennant for a whole variety of reasons. Christopher Eccleston and him revived the series for a lot of people and generated interest among a wide range of population.

I don't know who died and made wewe King of the Doctor Who fandom, but who are wewe to say that a person "cannot" like David Tennant even after watching Tom Baker's era? Cannot?

wewe have your own opinions, wewe made them heard. wewe have no right to command what other people's opinions can be.

I see wewe also compare David Tennant mashabiki with Justin Bieber, which I am not even going to get started on. wewe are comparing a spoiled brat with a man who loved the onyesha so much he chose his career based on the same.
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oswinchesters said:
Hi, firstly I'd just like to say it doesn't matter what age wewe are when wewe watch Doctor Who. Yes, I am a 14 mwaka old girl, that doesn't mean wewe can think that all teenage girls are stereotypically superficial and only watch the onyesha because the Doctor is 'hot'. We (the modern audience) enjoy the onyesha because of the content, not because of the physical appeal. We all have our own opinion who our favourite Doctor is, and just because we like a specific one doesn't mean we are naïve. I'm also watching Classic Who.
I apologise if this sounded rude in any way, but it doesn't matter if wewe like the onyesha whether it be modern au classic. As long as wewe have a upendo for Doctor Who, wewe can be called a fan.
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BronzeBird said:
Jeez, that was harsh.
So, believe it au not, WE TEENAGERS ARE ENTITLED TO OUR OWN OPINION. Hate on the THING if wewe must but not the mashabiki of the thing. Don't bash us up. We never did nuffin' to you.
Apparently I am naïve because I reckon David Tennant is the best Doctor. This is a David Tennant club. Duh. Take the fight to the Doctor Who club. I am an ex-teenager anyway, and David is the best so far, in my opinion. I haven't seen any of the Classic Who because it isn't really available where I am. My opinion may au may not be changed when I see the Classic Serieses. Don't get your knickers in a knot.
Complain if wewe must, but to people sharing your opinion and do it nicely. Don't hate on the fans.
Thank you.
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zachbattak said:
okay i just started the new doctor who on friday starting from 05 and i gotta say even though i havent seen the original doctor who i am still becoming a new doctor who shabiki and i am a guy, i started watching the series and am beginning to stick with the new who because they bring a new form of cleverness and hilarity to the series while making the references to the older series and right now im finding chris ecclection to be a great doctor but i have yet to see all of tennets and smiths episodes at the moment so dont judge plus i dont see how modern who is a visual soap opera so dont judge any one who watches modern who and are mashabiki of it as dumb au a naive, clueless teen, im 21 and watching the series so quit generalizing that its just females that watch the series
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Sakaarson12 said:
Personally, I haven't seen much classic Who (couldn't find much, but have seen some Troughton), and am therefore not a real fan, I guess (but I;m trying!), but I do like David Tennant from what I have seen. I mean, maybe Tom Baker is better, maybe not, but I like Tennant anyway. I'll try to see some Baker for comparison and enjoyment ASAP.
What I take issue with is the "pretty awful writing" part. I upendo the plotlines of this show, I upendo the concepts, I upendo the characters... I don't know if it's good TV kwa your standards, metalheadjay, but it sure as heck is kwa mine.
Also, I'm male. Just saying.
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browniej126 said:
ok so i'm a dude who upendo doctor who I've been watching since Ecleston. i know what the other doctors were like i do i promise wewe and Tennant is the best. he had great storys and truly emotional scenes but this is MY OPINION wewe can hate on me all wewe like YOUR OPINION won't change MINE so please just let everyone like who they like but wewe will rage on me so go ahead i dare wewe
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ElloSweetie1963 said:
wewe see, the new mashabiki arent that bad. i am 12, and i upendo the new series. the onyesha a depth that i feel is great for modern tv, which is lacking in shows today. older who is great, i admit, but new doctor who has such a fun theme to it in the mist of a serious storyline, which is what doctor who was, is, and ever will be. and, as wewe know, peter will be coming shortly, so he will weed out of the fake fans
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doctorwhat said:
First, just because wewe are a "female", doesnt mean wewe cant upendo the show! I am a female doctor who shabiki who has Marafiki who are boys/obsess over doctor who. And those "friends who are boys" dont have an interest in classic who but i have (i watch classic wo kwa the way)... it really hurts me that just because of sexism, "I" am the fake fan. I dont watch the onyesha because i think they are hot. I watch it because i am a sci-fi geek! I upendo nyota wars, hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy etc. and kwa the way i think that was really sexist. And that maoni wewe leave in one of the other maoni (english is not my native language, there might be a grammatical mistake) really bothers me: a real female fan, hard to see... au something like that. wewe talk like its something really hard to find. Do wewe do the same thing to boys as well? Like when a boy says "I upendo doctor who!" do wewe think he might be watching the onyesha because of hot companions? au is it something wewe only do for females?
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DarthMegan said:
Why are wewe being so negative? I am a shabiki of Doctor Who, and I am a teenage girl, but I don't like it because The Doctor is hot. I like it because I think it is a good onyesha with good story lines most of the time.
Just because a shabiki is a teenager au a girl doesn't necessarily mean that they are clueless. In fact, quite a lot of the teenage audience happen to be intelligent people who don't waste their time posting negative maoni towards the other Doctor Who mashabiki like wewe do. Who's the smarter one really?
Also, so what if someone likes Doctor Who because the Doctor is hot? That's their own business for liking the onyesha and it has nothing to do with wewe au any of us. If someone wants to like David Tennant zaidi than Tom Baker then let them because it's none of your business. If someone wants to upendo Matt Smith just because he is conventionally good looking then let them, because it's drawing viewers into the onyesha and keeping it on our televisions.
As a young female who loves science fiction, especially modern Doctor Who, and not because the actors are hot, I am offended and outraged at this question.
And I can't believe wewe would have the STUPIDITY to insult modern Doctor Who in a group full of people who upendo David Tennant: The best Doctor in modern Doctor Who.
That's just my opinion on that.
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jjmittle said:
wewe are being extremely rude kwa asking this question, as a loyal shabiki to both new who and classic who im am insulted. also i take the first reason to be extremly sexist. i happen to belive that David Tennant is a superb doctor and applaud BBC for making eleven (techically twelve) unique doctors, if wewe are going to be so intolerant to change then kindly do NOT make your fellow mashabiki deal with it.
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naniquena said:
NO and NO
1 NO, I'm on several DW pages on FB and the ratio is almost 50/50 on gender.
2 The DOCTOR was always hot... that has NOTHING to do with the goodness of the show...
3 David Tennant as all of the other 11 Doctors IS AWSOME... for me... he's a little bit awsome than Baker but just a little.
4 Well... because the writings and actins, like... SUSAN... were sooooo goood and soooo profound... COME ON!!! Susan was a moron who screams... most of the time.
5 I watched a lot of good TV but it seams u Lost your "live and let the other live" lesson in preschool.

alisema that... if u dont like the new DW please stop watching.. u'll make us a favor... so we don't have to listen to u anymore
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BooksCleverness said:
Though i have not seen the classics i know they're good. Also i am not some naive little girl who just watches it becuase david tennant au matt smith is hot. I am still just beging my adventure and i admit many of the doctor incarnations(old and new) are good looking i like the onyesha because it's funny and full of action and adventure. From what i have noticed all incarnations and many companions put meaning into the show. So i'm neutral, from what i have heard tom baker was very good and david tennant is a good doctor too! But i have to say bashing DAVID TENNANT on the DAVID TENNANT CLUB. wewe might have started a huge amount of destruction in this club
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TARDIS03 said:
Are wewe kidding me? I watched one Classic Who episode and fell asleep half way through. I will admit Tom Baker did a good job, still. I feel Classic Who was boring, horrible quality, and I am not even going to get into it any zaidi than that. wewe are calling me dumb? I am a high honor role student, a great singer, and so much zaidi things that wewe probably couldn't even do and your calling me dumb? How rude

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treacle-brittle said:
First of all, there is a common pattern in DW that whichever Doctor one sees first tends to become the one he/she likes the most. The first one wewe see in an adventure registers in your mind as THE Doctor, while the others are just... Doctors.

Second, both the antique series and the modern series have had some very intelligent eps, and also a fair number of near misses, but both shows, on the whole, are silly.

Third, the antique series DID tend to showcase the Doctor as a nearly asexual, but certainly VERY removed character. With Tennant being visibly attractive AND out there horn-dogging every female he meets, it took the onyesha into a completely different direction... one that only 16 mwaka old girls seem to appreciate. The Doctor was nuttier, zaidi alien and zaidi mysterious in the older series. In the new series, the only "mystery" is "what is his real name?"... as if that ever really mattered. Those of us older mashabiki miss the zaidi alien, mysterious Doctors and don't identify with the sass-mouthing hipster Doctors who are constantly vaunted for their brilliance, even though wewe don't actually see them do much besides wave the sonic bisibisi around.

Also, I read some of the other answers. The number of times I saw the word "sexist" was very amusing to me.


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CLASSICWHO said:
I agree, but it is generally not a good idea to go into a Tennant shabiki club and say he's terrible, no matter how right wewe are.
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xyresic said:
I upendo how defensive doctor who mashabiki get when wewe criticize the show. the onyesha is children's ndoto show, even the writers admit this. it's the mashabiki that take it over the juu and then everyone else jumps on the bandwagon. it's okay for adults to like children's shows, just admit to yourself it's a kid's onyesha and live in reality. "Of course Doctor Who is a children's show' says Steven Moffat. i find the same reactionary arguments when one criticizes religion. but as for your questions, i don't know about 1, 2, au 3. but 4 and 5 i absolutely agree with. i grew up with actually good science fiction and doctor who is not science fiction but ndoto with a magic wand that will fix everything that he'll explain later. doctor who is like red dwarf if red dwarf took itself seriously. seriously it is an embarrassment of british televisheni programs if the onyesha is to be taken seriously.
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