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Do wewe believe it's acceptable to shame au belittle non-feminist women who choose not to support feminism (for whatever their personal reasons are)? Please explain your answer.

I decided not to do this in a kura ya maoni with "yes they deserve to be shamed" as an option because I know some coward who really thinks this will vote for that choice but not explain why. here, wewe have to onyesha your face with your opinion.

and please be respectful to each other.
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"because I know some coward who really thinks this will vote for that choice but not explain why" - "and please be respectful to each other."
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Cinders said:
This is a fantastic question, thank you!

No one deserves to be shamed for personal beliefs so long as those beliefs are not hurting anyone else. I would argue this perspective of subtle prejudices and -isms that exist inside people's heads that they don't act on as well. Even people who are strongly anti-gay, for example, but treat the LGBTQ with respect should, themselves, be respected. But people who are ignorant should be educated, and people of any beliefs should be challenged and able to defend those beliefs.

The thing with feminism is that for some reason it is grossly misunderstood. I have written about this a lot. And like many misunderstandings, my first inclination is to try and explain them and ask the swali again (link).

Self professed "anti-feminists" au just simply "not feminists" (be they men au women) should not be shamed for their perspectives, but I will debate with them in the same way that I'll debate with, let's say, a conservative republican with whom I disagree. It's been my experience that 90% of the time, we are not using the same definition of feminism. When I explain how feminism protects stay-at-home moms and helps men live happier and healthier lives as well, they tend to be zaidi amenable and we generally agree. The other ten percent of the time, they have the same definition I use and simply disagree that men can be nurses and women can be wage-earners. And while I have a vastly different opinion, that's their right, and I still respect them for it.

I cannot explain how the term has gotten so slandered, but I have a pretty good idea why. But that's a story for another time.

TL;DR: Providing an individual (male au female) fully understands what the term feminism means (and not what its detractors would have people believe it to mean), then they of course have their right to believe in specific gender roles and maintaining the gender/sex status quo. But if they don't fully understand the term, au are misusing/misrepresenting it, then they should be challenged and educated. They may still choose not to accept the label, but at least they'll have a better awareness of what they are rejecting.
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Excellent answer!
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zanhar1 said:
I don't think so, not at all. A woman doesn't have to support feminism--especially not warped and ignorant forms of it. I can totally see someone going on tumblr and seeing how it does feminism and be put off kwa it.

Some women are fine with things as they are. Some women like the gender roles set for them. Who is anyone to force the person to support something they don't believe in. That's like trying to force an atheist to believe in one au many Gods.

Just because a person doesn't support feminism doesn't mean that they are actively against it either. It may simply mean that they are just indifferent au don't know how to feel about it.
I can see people taking issue to a woman (or man) constantly belittling people who are for feminism. But simply not being a feminist is no reason to rip on a woman.
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