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Debate Should cigarettes be outlawed?
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Personally, I think people should be allowed to choose to kill themselves with Cancer sticks. ;o)
In all seriousness-- there are worse things. Like heroin.
Smoking is stupid and I think stupidity should be outlawed. "You must be this smart to ride this nation."
Look, I understand the concern about second-hand smoke and I'm for cigarettes being banned in restaurants. But when I'm at home, I have a right to do whatever I want regarding my own body. When you start dictating people's personal choices, you open the flood gates and risk all the freedoms that people in this country take for granted.
They make everyone's health care go up too. Make insurance payments higher. Destroy lives.
I'm sorry. Go and eat all the Krispy Kremes that you want. That affects only you. My air, lungs and wallet are not bothered by that at all.
If it were up to me, no one would smoke. But people should be allowed to make decisions ( No matter how harmful or unhealthy) for themselves, because thats freedom.
We outlaw marijuana, crack, heroin, hallucinogens, etc because they are DANGEROUS! And stupid. So are cigarettes. Why do we need these harmful substances outlawed?
Because they never just affect you! To think that is so self-centered and totally ignorant.
At least with a public ban, that helps the air and the public who don't want to smoke, but allows smokers to do so. In that case, cigarettes actually don't affect people.
(I'm actually against the ban as well, but I can understand why people might be for a ban but against outlawing them).
Like I said. Do your homework. I posted a link in the links section back a few months ago to some opposing scientific facts. Find it. Educate yourselves.
I don't drive a car, so I would like everyone who does, to stop doing it because it pollutes my air and damages my lungs. Why should my lungs be damaged by other peoples fumes?
Although smoking is a dirty habit ;)
If you completely outlaw cigarettes, you're restricting people's personal rights and severely damaging (again, as Saap said) the economy. Outlawing them wouldn't make people stop smoking (kinda like how making prostitutes and marijuana illegal didn't stop too many people from using them).
Now if we could get pregnant women to stop smoking, THAT I would vote for.
Cigarettes are harmful when abused but when used in moderation, they can alleviate anxiety and schizophrenia.
Also, remember, cigarettes are creating an economic stimulus. People will pay through the nose for pack of smokes. If I were smart politician, I'd squeeze every dollar out of smoker's wallet to keep the state going, the cigarette businesses pumping and smokers semi-happy (by the way, it isn't fair paying all that money for a smoke but when you have an urge, gotta do what you gotta do).
Anyway, I smoke. I wish it would be outlawed, because that would give me a major motivation to give up. I don't like smoking - I do it because I'm addicted and can't motivate myself to give up. But, it will never be outlawed - tobacco companies make WAY too much money for them to even consider the possibility and the government will find it hard-pressed to stop them. The fact is, it is all about money. I'll add something else, too. Some people have said it is someone's constitutional right again - that may be so, but 'constitutional rights' seem to do more harm than good. I don't think smoking should be made illegal, I think all tobacco plants and seeds should be destroyed - that way no-one can 'illegally' grow it. As Kateliness said 'We outlaw marijuana, crack, heroin, hallucinogens, etc because they are DANGEROUS! And stupid. So are cigarettes. Why do we need these harmful substances outlawed?' - because they harm people. Tobacco is just as harmful, or more so, than most of these and just as addictive.
Also, people said that it would ruin us financially and economically - well, I have a simple solution for that. Promote the smoking of 'marijuana cigarettes', instead. It is less harmful and they would be able to be taxed. Besides, if most of the 1st world was stupid enough to allow such a dangerous thing to become the major part of their economics, then they deserve to lose that part of their economical system. Just think about - all tobacco companies care about is making money. The government tax it, because that is the only way that they can make something off of it and one way that they can claim that it makes it not quite so bad. But, the truth is, that doesn't make it any better. People die from it!!! Just like with alcohol - the wto are dangerous and need to be outlawed (tobacco) and monitored (alcohol).
I'm hoping the quotes here mean something, because I believe in the constitution. Do the quotes mean that you're talking about people using the 'right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness' to justify self-destructive behavior? I wouldn't say that toking the odd joint or, yes, even enjoying the odd cigarette is necessarily self-destructive. Years ago, when this question was asked, DrDevience posted several sources addressing a lot of myths about cigarettes. If you search the spot I'm sure you'll find them in the links section.
And whoa whoa whoa, hands off my reisling. Wine and beer are entwined with our culture, as well as spirits to a lesser extent. Some alcohols even have health benefits when consumed in moderation. Rather than demonizing the substance, let's address the matter of addiction for what it is - a disease, and not one cause by the legality or illegality of a substance. Outlawing it - or further extremes, destroying any trace of it - is definitely not the answer to treating addiction and health issues. Rather, decriminalizing use and making addiction a public health issue is proven to be more successful. In ten years after decriminalization, Portugal managed to cut its addiction rates in half [Source: link].
As with most things, I never believe extremes are the solution. You cannot destroy all tobacco plants. I agree that these sorts of things should be regulated. However, people are under the impression that outlawing drugs is controlling them, but really when you outlaw something you give up your right to control it, to regulate it.
I am not a cigarette smoker, although I have indulged in shisha (or hookah as the Americans term it), once again as part of a cultural experience. I picked up the habit in Egypt and still don't regret it. I'm not addicted - I haven't smoked a pipe in years, nor do I have the urge to do so at this moment - but when old friends from Egypt come visit, or indeed when I go back, it is an activity in which I like to partake. There are healthy ways to indulge in tobacco, just as there are healthy ways to indulge in marijuana and alcohol.
Anyway, yes, it was an extreme idea, but you have no idea how much I despise smoking now - I hate these stupid tobacco companies ever introduced the idea of consumer tobacco consumption - it really makes me mad. If they hadn't spent plenty of years advocating it, then I could have avoided the habit in the first place - the whole reason I started was because people said it was cool - I tried it and realised that I thought I was cool - two years later = addicted. Yes, this is partially my own failing, too, but it's a bit too late for that now. Anyway, to cut it short, I guess we can't outlaw it, so it doesn't really matter what I think anyway. Bearing in mind, that my argument wasn't an argument, it was merely wishful thinking and what I would like to happen, even though I admitted in the middle of it that it won't get outlawed.
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