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posted by Sophia21
Realised the points have little to do with plot, thus changed the title to errors.

My apologise to Twilight mashabiki if I'm a little too harsh, but I have reread the vitabu like twice this mwezi and it was a little exasperating. Not to worry, I'm currently rereading Harry Potter, so a plothole orodha on it will be added soon =)

Ok, let's get started:

1.A hundred years of...nothingness?
Explanation: I don't expect science fiction vitabu to be scientifically accurate. But if wewe plan your main character to live 100 years studying in prep forever at the age of 17, make the whole book plausible. No, just saying "oh he is just so smart :swoon:" won't do it. At 17-18 wewe are at the epitome of brain power, and after that your brain cells rapidly start dieing. True, most teenager waste those years, and some even accelerate the brain death kwa getting so wasted. But if wewe are forever 17 like Edward, wewe have the potential to become the smartest person in the world. Your capability of learning new things, your concentration and your memory are at optimum stage. juu that with a hundred years of studies and wewe can beat a computer in chess blindfolded. And yet, our ohsosmart protagonist and most of his family, onyesha no proof of superior intellect. Vampire assasins are after Bella; let's hide her in a hotel and run in circles in hope that we will confuse them. I saw Bella jumping off a cliff, instead of finding out if she is alive kwa myself I'll send my sister. And conveniently, I will break my cell phone so that she won't be able to tell me what she found out. Jasper wants to eat you? No problem, here, I'll smash wewe into a desk.

2.The Ice Age
Explanation: Lack of scientific knowledge is not an excuse in this case at all. Lack of common sense would be zaidi like it. Forks is described as a very cloudy and rainy place where seldom sunny days occur. Wanyonya damu sparkle in sunlight, but hey, not to worry, just avoid the sunny days in forks and you'll be ok, right? Wrong! Clouds are not frigging parasols. In fact if wewe have ever heard of Global Warming au Greenhouse effect, wewe would know that in fact they work the opposite way. Sunlight can come in through clouds and they retain it, mantaining the temperature and blablabla we all know about that except Meyer. If the Cullens did not sparkle during cloudy days, it would be hard to tell, because it would also mean that wewe wouldn't be able to see your hand in front of your face.

3.Vampire super-senses
Explanation: Ok, this is not entirely Meyer's fault. She probably came across a Superman comic while uandishi the vitabu and didn't pause to consider searching for flaws. Precisely the point I refer to is when Bella wakes up after being transformed into a vampire. In case wewe don't remember it due to being traumatised kwa the awali description of Bella giving birth, here is the exact fragment:
"The brilliant light overhead was still blinding-bright, and yet I could plainly see the glowing strands of the filaments inside the bulb. I could see each color of the upinde wa mvua in the white light, and, at the very edge of the spectrum, an eighth color I had no name for. Behind the light, I could distinguish the individual grains in the dark wood ceiling above. In front of it, I could see the dust motes in the air, the sides the light touched, and the dark sides, distinct and separate. They spun like little planets, moving around each other in a celestial dance."
Mmmm, this won't do at all. What is all that? Magnifying view(dust motes) + wider visible light spectrum(7 regular colours+mistery flavour 8th one*)+prismatic vision(able to tell the colours that make up light apart)? If Bella had really seen all that at that precise moment, we would have been treated to a very detailed head explosion scene(which paired with the birth scene would have made us puke our guts out). Well, head explosion is overexagerating, but excruciating painful headache would be accurate. The brain cannot proccess all that information at once, least tell them appart. It's like trying to hear a panya walking in the sewers under a busy avenue.
A similar problem comes with the shapeshifters. They can hear each other thoughts, with only the Alpha being able to shut them out. Imagine trying to read this makala and make out what I'm saying while listening to your mother thinking about what will she make for dinner, your brother trying to do homework and your neighbour the philosopher pondering on the meaning of existence.

*Here I spared Meyer a little bit. Bella mentions seeing an eight colour at the end of the rainbow. The upinde wa mvua has 2 ends: red au violet. If we were to perceive a wider range of the electromagnetic spectrum, beyond the red we would see Infrared and beyond violet Ultraviolet, which for all matters are still red and violet, not an 8th colour. She would have to be able to see past them, either Microwaves au X-rays.

4)Meyer missed her first aid class
Explanation: I actually hit my head with the book when I came across this. I should probably include it in my bad message makala too, kwa the way. If any of the points here were to prove that Meyer wrote her vitabu out of what she saw in sinema rather than kwa research this would be it.
Situation. James bits Bella injecting her with Vampire venom. Edward sucks the venom out of Bella's wound while demonstrating oh how perfect he is for having selfcontrol and loving her so much. If something, whether a snake, a bat au *sigh* Vampire were to bit you, wewe don't suck the venom out of the wound. First of all, it's completely pointless. wewe will only remove a small amount of venom in the immediate zone of the wound, while the rest of it flows through your veins and into your Nervous System. At best wewe can buy 5 dakika with this. However, removing the venom from the immediate zone prevents doctors to identify the type of venom and administer a correct antidote (anyways this is vampire venom, so Bella was pretty much screwed).Second point, if the people sucking the venom has an injury on its teeth au mouth, then the venom will flow into his bloodstream, poisoning him too( unfourtunately, Edward has "Perfect" teeth, so there goes our chance of him becoming poisoned kwa James venom and perphaps becoming zaidi manly).

5)Yeah, I'll mention the paper cut too
Explanation: Unlike most people, I will not flame the stupidity of cutting your finger with wrap, upangaji pamoja paper. No, I will simply remark how this scene throws all sense the book may have had into the dustbin, and then compacts that dustbin and throws it off a bridge. As everyone but Meyer knows, the fingers are on the extreme of our hands (hold your facepalm). Even zaidi oblivious to Meyer, fingers don't have main veins au arterys*, thus when we cut we do not bleed to death. When Bella cuts her finger, she holds it before her face. Being an extremity, a lot of pressure is needed to pampu blood to it at such an akward angle. Thus not a single droplet should have oozed(not yet, hold it a little bit more). Anyways, in the vitabu there is no explicit information about how much blood Bella drops, and we are not going to take the sinema as a fact. However what we know as a fact is that not much blood was spilled (until the meza, jedwali smashing). Do wewe see how little sense this makes already? I'll be zaidi clear. If I dash to save a ball while playing volley in school, my knees will be scratched. Say I accidentaly cut my hand with a scissor, even if i wrap, upangaji pamoja it on a band aid, the blood would still be exposed as a crust. When Bella scratches her hand during the trip to La Push, Edward can tell kwa the smell. Yes Edward and co. skip certain scheduled blood events, like the siku they pinned their fingers for Biology. But they cannot know exactly when someone will miss their hamburger and end up cutting their fingers during lunchtime. And seeing as Jasper goes into a frenzy with the smallest drop of blood, one does wonder how he didn't have any of the people at school as an apetizer. Now wewe can facepalm.
Edited: And I wonder how does Jasper react at school during that time of the month. Gross, but true.

6.Meyer also skipped AIDS class
Explanation: Thanks to XDRoseLuvsHP for this brilliant point. It is hard to explain this point without somewhat turning it into a sex class, but this is Meyer's idea of interesting literature and not mine. As we know Wanyonya damu do not have blood, thus it should be impossible for males to have erections. For once spotting a mistake, Meyer writes that vampire venom in a way (magic, it's bound to be magic) replaces most human body fluids to perpetuate bodily functions, for example lubricating the eyes(but not producing tears, cause Twilight Wanyonya damu are so strong and perfect and brave that they do not cry!) au semen.
At this point she should really have alisema magic, because this "venom-infused fluids" rise as many problems as it tried to solve. The first thing they teach wewe during AIDS class is that AIDS transmits during sex due to infected semen coming into contact with micro-injuries (produced as a result of having sex) in both male and female. Probably wanting to subconciously get herself into zaidi trouble, Meyer writes that during their first relations, Edward damaged Bella very badly. Edward's semen may not have AIDS, but it has vampire venom. Earlier on book series, it is mentioned that vampire venom kills woman eggs, so Bella couldn't become pregnant. And due to the contact of the infected semen with the micro-injuries, Bella should have become infected too.
When pointed this mistake at her webpage, Meyer replied this:
"It should be noted that these fluids can't transform humans into Wanyonya damu the way the actual venom can."
Noted? Noted where? Oh! Is there a subliminal message at the first letters of every paragraph that states this? Really, it would have been much wiser to accept the mistake that give such a poor excuse. Like in a written exam, what counts is what wewe have written, not what wewe thought au wewe alisema later.

7.Feelings go inside the heart
Explanation: I just added this one for completetion purpose, cause everyone but Meyer probably spotted it during their first readthrough. One of Bella's (perfect) traits is her ability to produce a shield that prevents vampire powers from affecting her brain. Subconciously, she has this shield active over herself all the time. Thus, Edward is unable to read her mind, Aro cannot see her memories, Jane cannot make her feel pain and Kate cannot fry her with electricity. However, near the end of Twilight (around the point the plot pops out before rapidly being thrown back to the hole whence it came from) Bella is feeling stressed and deppresed because James is chasing her, Jasper uses his power to control people's emotions to calm her down so much that she fell asleep (at this point I was amazed that Meyer let a rape chance go by). To Meyer's disbelief, emotions originate in the BRAIN not in the HEART. And as Bella blocks brain intrusion, then Jasper powers shouldn't have affected her.
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posted by hpotterforever7
Ok, well I'm going to be perfectly respectful in this makala because I don't want to make anyone mad, I just want to make a point. If wewe agree au disagree with it, that's up to you. Please don't be rude inthe maoni section, and give reasons for opinions. Thanks!

Now I can start. May I just start kwa saying that I am on the Harry Potter side (with all due respect to Twilight fans)

I've noticed that one of the things Twilight mashabiki say is that Bella is a zaidi relatable character than Harry. I think that that is a good point because technically, wewe can be a normal teenager who goes to school...
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posted by LavenderBrown
Some people (not necessarily Americans) have admitted having trouble with the British words in Harry Potter. To solve this problem, I give you...An Americans Guide to British words!

1) Prat
Someone who is described as being dumb au self centered. Usually acts against logic.
e.x. Jeez, Roldolfo is such a prat!

2) Git
Basically, a jerk. Shallow and/or childish.
e.x. Look at that git, strutting around like he owns the place!

3) Err...
The British equivalent of umm...
e.x. "Errr.... is it 42?"

4) Barmy
Insane/Crazy.
e.x. That old mans gone barmy!

5.) Blast
Equivalent to "Dang!"
e.x. Blast! Some git's taken...
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Twihards au Rabid mashabiki (thats obsessive Twilight fans, all of you): Don't read this. I don't want to get mauled au drowned.
I apologize for any spelling au grammar errors.
Don't get me wrong- I like Twilight just fine. However, many parts of it really annoyed me. Here are my reasons why I liked Harry Potter better.

1. Characters.
Lets compare:
Lead female role in HP: Hermione Granger. Flaws: a bit nerdy, Know-it-all, and Bossy. Good traits: Stood up for herself (as well as think for herself), worked against racism (for house-elves), was loyal to Harry at all times, and didn't try to kill herself...
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posted by SpeedyGonzalez
I Speedy Gonzalez did not write this I merely copied and pasted it. The original may be found link.

I got Breaking Dawn on the siku that it came out and was hoping that Meyer would somehow redeem the steadily deteriorating quality of the Twilight series. What a huge disappointment. I was even zaidi disappointed when I found out how Meyer was responding to the criticism towards it. Then I discovered that she was uandishi Midnight Sun. I looked mbele to that because, even though all of the vitabu suck, they are a guilty pleasure and Twilight was the best of all of them. Then she stopped writing...
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posted by lilcherrywine
Dear friends,
This is my first attempt at uandishi a creative article. I've attempted the Facebook page of HP, and hope wewe like it. Sorry for the lame humor, it's my very first time. Thanks for reading, and please drop in your comments, because I need your opinion. Thanks again.


HP’S fb page


HARRY POTTER

Went to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
Lives in London.
Knows English, Parseltongue
From Godric’s Hollow
Born on July 31, 1880




Cho Chang: Harry, I had a trip with dad and mom to Forks last week and I spotted Cedric there. Yes, Harry, I saw him. I don’t know what’s happening, I mean,...
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Now to anyone of the teensy-beensy minority that has never heard of Twilight's male protagonist, Edward Cullen, he supposedly a vampire that falls in deep "love" with a human girl named Bella.

Now I must object to this description of the Edward and Bella (Edella au Bedward, lol). While the relationship is described as being true love, I personally think that the relationship is any BUT deep, true love. It is, in my, along with many other fanpoppers, opinion that this relationship is extraordinarily unhealthy and codependent, and that Edward's supposed "love" is obsessive love.

Obsessive love:...
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posted by PotterLambert93
Today, I read a post from "youknowit101" on "1000 Reason why Twilight is better than harry Potter", and it completley gave me sekunde thoughts about this whole thing between the rival series. According to this guy, he is very ashamed at the HP mashabiki for attacking the Twilight mashabiki and how immature they are, and to be honest, I now couldn't agree more. He's right, HP fans, we are the immature ones, not the Twilighters. We Potterheads are taking HP for granted and using it to rub it in other people's faces.

Now I see why Twilight mashabiki barley respond to the debates and articles, and it's because...
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posted by sy-sy
why deos twilight annoy me? because when twilight came out everyone 4 got hp then the new hp movie came out and they loved hp again thgen twilight movie came out people just cant make up their minds well i can ive seen all the hp movie so far and twilight and even though hp leave s out some stuff its still TEN times better twilight is annoying becuz they think they can come in and steal the whole onyesha that why oppion of a hpfan gcsfdsjhvcdshvcwrivhrweuvghbersvksfdhvsklvhjsdfvklsdfvb dfc bvhdx jkhdfvoperfcujrehvcjfdvhhhjukdsxhcdsjcv
posted by SpeedyGonzalez
I, SpeedyGonzalez did NOT write this. I just merely copyed and pasted it.

Ah, yes, Stephenie Meyer, mwandishi of the Twilight series. My opinion of her, from the way that she has presented herself to the public in interviews and such, is that she is a whiny, self absorbed woman with the mind of a 13 mwaka old. She can't deal with criticism because it hurts her delicate little feelings, and believes that she is an amazing writer and that her story and characters are somehow superior to those seen in the works of people such as Jane Austen and William Shakespeare. Here's one statement that shows that...
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Okay, so a lot of people have been asking that I put zaidi debate stuff and reasons why I think Twilight is better. Now that we're all Marafiki and don't hate eachother anymore, I hope we can all have a reasonable debate.

But before I start, I want to say that I don't compleatley hate Harry Potter anymore. I saw the Deathly Hallows today, my friend is somewhat of a fan, and wanted to see it. I reluctaintly went with her, and it actually wasn't that bad. wewe see, I read the first-fourth Harry Potter books, and read most of the seventh. The Deathly Hallows movie was much better than the book in...
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Hello everyone!

I'm planning on uandishi a letter to Stephenie Meyer regarding the Twilight series. I wanted to address all the points many people do not like in the series. The letter is going to be friendly and straight-forward. I wanted to hear what everyone would want me to include. These are a few of the topics I am going to be including:

- Anti-feminism
- Abusive relationship
- Unhealthy obsession
- Lust does not equal upendo
- Bella is horribly rude to her Marafiki (not valued friendships)

These are just a few. Please add anything and if there is something specific you'd like me to add.

I'll be working on this letter and posting on Sunday on Fanpop, so I can add anything else and have your approval and then I will send it to her.
I understand that Seth probably won't let it get to her, but it's worth a shot and I will post his reply (assuming he does reply.)

Thank you! :)
posted by Kassaremidylynn
I wrote this a while zamani for my English class. We had to write about something we felt strongly about, and I feel very strongly about this, so...

Many people think that I would be an avid Twilight lover and a hater of the Harry Potter vitabu after their first impression. What they see may seem to point to that: I’m a fifteen mwaka old girl who devours books, is a self-proclaimed hopeless romantic, loves all things vampire related, and I wear a ton of black. In reality, this couldn’t be far from the truth. It is actually the complete opposite. I absolutely despise anything Twilight related...
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posted by GemonkDruid
A/N: I just thought it would be an interesting subject, wewe know? And before wewe do anything, just to let wewe know, I FAIL at characterisation. So don't go all batshit on me if I get Hermione au anyone else wrong, 'kay?

Today, on the 17th of October, the court session for the famous "Meyer Case" was initiated. Stephenie Meyer, founder of Twilight, inc., the billion-dollar advertising company, was arrested on several charges, including: allegations of fraud charged kwa worldwide companies Feminism, inc., 3D pwns 2D, and Literature n Books; the murder of various brain cells; abuse and rape of thesarus,...
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posted by emilykuru
Fanfiction:

edward-bella vs harry-ginny

Edward and bella go to a railway station during one rainy siku in london. They meet harry and ginny there,

( bella is not changed into a vampire yet )

Edward: bella love, close your eyes please!

Bella: why edward?

(thinks to himself)

Edward : just yesterday I had promised her that she was the prettiest one I have ever seen, but here here is ginny who looks so pretty.
And bella should better stay away from harry, au she will ditch me like jake..

( meanwhile harry is using legilimence when edward is busy thinking )

Harry: well, why am I going to eye a crackpot...
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There once was this girl named Bri, who had a best friend (for this article, we'll call her Z). Bri and Z had identical taste in books. So, when Z gave Bri Twilight for krisimasi and told her how “great” it was and kept going on and on. She tried to convince Bri that it was better than Harry Potter (the book Bri had been obsessed with since she was nine) but Bri didn't believe that at all. Still, if Z liked it, then Bri knew she would like it. She had no hesitation when she cracked the binding. She was hooked.

Now, this was before Twilight grew to be psychotically massive, so when Bri came...
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Before wewe start reading, I'd like to say this is my personal opinion. Maybe I'm wrong. If I am, I'd appreciate wewe don't get mad because I don't like fighting. It wasn't meant to be rude, mean au hurtfull to anybody.

For me Twilight was too easy to read. I could predict what would happen and the plot was too easy. The thing is, the plot isn't bad. Wanyonya damu exist, that's cool. wewe know one, yes, very cool. But the way Stephenie Meyer introduces it, how she developed her characters, how she modeled the vampire species, that is where Twilight gets people annoyed. It represent the iceburg that...
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It's pretty obvious from just my jina la mtumiaji that I am a 'Twilighter',but I will try not to be biast in this article. So, lets compare the two...

Which made zaidi money?

♥ The movie 'Twilight' made $69,637,740 in the USA and £2,508,422 in the UK, in its opening weekend. 'Harry Potter and the sorcerers stone/philosphers stone' made $90,294,621 in the USA and £16,335,627 in the UK, in its opening weekend.

♥ 'New Moon' in its opening weekend made $142,839,137 in the USA and £11,683,158 in the UK, whereas 'Harry Potter and the Chamber of secrets' made $88,357,488 in the USA and £18,871,829 in...
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I have researched the following and well, I am not really surprised about the results. But I still ask some questions.

Why is Twilight zaidi "popular" when HP sold zaidi than 400 million while Twilight only sold 53 million? Also, Twilight is just 45% in the nyanya meter while HP is 83% in the nyanya meter? Third, Twilight sold about $191,449,475 while HP sold about $283,879,025? Another is Twilight is never shown in Kid's almanacs (the World and Time yearly almanacs) while HP is seen may times over. Twilight fans, don't wewe see, HP is better even of wewe turn the world upside down au inside out!...
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