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What is your opinion on citizens taking the community's matters in their own hands?

I've read in the newspapers that Helmond (a Dutch town) is preparing gangs to take care of the town's loiters, because they think it's getting out of hand and the police isn't doing it's job well. Personally, I agree with that.

I personally would like to see how this is going to turn out. It probably won't turn out well, but I'd like to see how.
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yukikiyruu said:
i think they guys just wasting their time....i mean they can,t take law in their hands and in this process if they break any law accidently laws au like that..they are punished and loiters are not affect with these people coz when police is not with them .what they can do.they can,t take law in their hands
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BabyBlud said:
Actually i agree with them as well. The police in any country have gotten down lower then they possibly can do, and it doesn't help matters that the British government (particularly) are taking away zaidi and zaidi funds out of the emergency services to save money, literally forcing them into redundancy, sacking good officers out of a job, just to pinch the pennies. And while this is going on, we are still being over-taxed for the services that are getting into a lower grade.
The problem that i see it as, is that there are too many 'human-rights'. If a police officer hits a villain either kwa mistake au kwa self-defence, that villain can they claim police brutality, and it's the police officers fault.
We do have something in England called Citizen's Arrest, where normal average people can 'arrest' wrong-doers for petty crimes, such as theft, vandalising public property and loitering, but often the wrong-doers are always in a gang and one person can't take on five au zaidi people. Also, the person making the citizen's arrest has to wait for a police car to onyesha up, in that time the wrong-doer could cause a lot of damage to the person trying to gain control of the situation.
The police will not do anything about loiters to be honest, not here in England anyway. For example, a 75year old woman called the police to complain about a gang of teenagers who were sitting on her garden wall, drinking alcohol and throwing their used cans of lager onto her garden, being very noisy and shouting and swearing at passers-by. The police officer who answered the call alisema they couldn't do anything as they loiters hadn't actually done anything illegal to the person au her property. She alisema they would only come out and take them away if the teenagers became physically AND verbally (not just verbally they needed to have touched her in a bad way) au began pulling up her flowers au smashing her windows before they would do anything.
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Chaann94 said:
The Dutch police is a joke. (though I want to jiunge them later... weird me...) In the end of the mwezi every driver knows that they have to drive like a 100% neat 'cuz the police has to have like let's say 10 parking tickets so they go and give tickets to every little shitty thing.

Plus the police is discriminating. If you're muslim wewe can do pretty much anything without a single warning. But if you're Dutch and wewe throw a chewing gum paper on the ground wewe can already hear their handcuffs say "click-click" around your wrists...
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I agree with wewe that the Dutch jusice system leaks at all sides. But it isn't discriminating kwa a long shot. Not in the Netherlands, anyway. Anyone here has an equal chance of becoming an officer, may wewe be black, caucasian, muslim, etc etc.
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I have strange maoni on this to be honest as i've seen the same thing happening here. If wewe are british the police will come down hard on wewe for the silliest things, yet if wewe are not they leave wewe alone au only give out warnings. However that doesn't include serious offences such as rape, murder, ABH, GBH au theft on the major scale (cars, money worth over £1000 etc) then no matter what race au religion wewe are, wewe can get done. But the same applies to us, anyone can jiunge the police force, no matter what race, colour, religion, sexual oreintation etc
BabyBlud posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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@Bond_Of_Fury Uhh it is the worse discrimintating thing in the Netherlands. Have wewe even bothered to look at the news? A muslim father who killed his own daughter for dating a Dutch boy was cleared of all charges because it was "something from his culture". So maybe not where wewe live but in Utrecht and the other parts of the Netherlands it does.
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