Here I am again with zaidi opinions to report. ;) This time I decided to give my input on the ever famous Bloom vs Icy debate.
Over on the most hivi karibuni (as of 6/6/14) Bloom vs Icy kura ya maoni I ended up leaving an makala long maoni backing my choice. I decided to retype that here and add even zaidi opinions. Enjoy. And no I am not trying to offend Bloom fans
The only reason I think Bloom wins any fight is because she as 1.) mwandishi bias on her side and 2.) The 'the main character always wins' rule on her side. If she were any other character--particularly a villain, her fighting skills would be a big joke.
In regards to mwandishi bias; it is so clear to see that Inigo (sp?) favors Bloom. It's in the promos and the over-load of her. So of course she's always gonna win and 'be the most powerful'. I'm not one to disagree with the mwandishi but come on--this is the man who alisema (and I don't mean to hate on her, she's cool) Flora is the 2nd most powerful. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Inigo always gave the impression that Stella held that position. I don't really even like her and I can see that. So I think it's fair to say that just because Inigo says Bloom is the almighty, all powerful doesn't mean it's true. As an aspiring mwandishi myself, nothing makes me madder than to see an mwandishi clearly favoring one character to the others. That is what makes for a Sue. And that favoritism is why Bloom always wins. It's not about her being zaidi powerful, it's her being zaidi liked.
And naturally she has 'the main character always wins' on her side. That's a given. Authors simply do not like it when the bad guys win. So of course Bloom will always beat Icy in the end, that's a typical rule of most any form of entertainment. It's the fights in between that really count when gauging who the zaidi powerful is. The fights in between are the ones that are fair. The ones that don't really have the miracle solution because not much is at stake.
Frankly I don't care how many times the creators say Bloom is the most powerful--she's not, the dragon moto is. Without it she is nothing. She is very naive and easy to manipulate. She would have died in episode 2 if not for Stella. She usually doesn't hold up well without the rest of her team to help her. And when she Lost the dragon moto she was defeated so easily. She gave up so easily too. Whereas in the hivi karibuni episode when the others Lost their powers they were still able to fight and do so well.
Taken from my article; without her Marafiki Bloom is noting. She's helpless and can't do a darn thing. No joke, Icy would've killed her in episode two (ya know when she froze her in a block of ice after getting caught spying). Stella was the only reason her arse wasn't frozen solid. Not to mention she was totally helpless without her silly dragon fire, all she did was cry and sulk. "Omg I Lost my magic what am I gonna do?" Seriously what kind of leader just gives up like that? Hearing her mope was infuriating. It's like, hello, quite moping and do something about it! She's the same way with her not knowing her true background. Instead of moping about how she doesn't know who she is she should've actually done something about it! I know for a fact that if Icy didn't know her history she would actually try to uncover it insread of crying. But no, all throughout season one it was 'but I don't know who I really am' 'who am I where do I come from' 'am I even a fairy'. To make things worse her confusion made her pathetically easy to manipulate; the trix and Mrs. Griffen successfully got her to think she was a witch, and that her parents were the ancestral witches. Talk about gullible.
I'd like to highlight the fact that Icy would have killed her in episode two and then promptly add that she would have done so again in season 1 in the episode where she turned Mirta into a pumpkin. Again, it was Stella who came to her rescue. And if I remember right she almost killed her again in season 2 (the episode where the first encounter the Trix again). This time it was Avalon who saved them all--particularly Bloom, he went and healed her and took down the Trix who totally had the upper hand in that one.
Let's not forget that in season 5 the Trix totally had the lilo au whatever. The only reason they Lost was because the Winx got literally the whole town to go against 3 people.
My sparkling point is; Bloom and the Winx usually only beat the Trix out of sheer luck au with help. Any time the Trix almost win, some third party au miracle solution comes to fix it especially with Bloom.
So let's take a look at what happens without those two factors; season 1 episode 18. Icy kicked Bloom's butt! She won. Why, because the mwandishi finally gave her the lower-hand and finally didn't have a third party, another Winx, au a 'plot-twist' to come to her aid. That's just something I've come to notice. The Trix win when it's a fair (not six vs 3+) fight. And when Icy faces Bloom alone, she usually comes out on top. Take season 1 episode 9 for instance (the magical reality thing) they kicked her butt, they successfully got her to use the dragon moto which was their plan the whole time. Things like that.
Going back to the whole miracle solution thing; I strongly believe that the only reason Bloom won in the season finale was because of one of those. Icy totally won--she got the dragon fire. But surprise surprise, here comes the miracle; there were two dragon fires! Excuse me, what? No. Bloom should have had to take it back fair and square, but she got the easy way out. Icy would have won. If we're talking fair-played no 'awesome' plot-twist, Icy would have won that one.
Personality is another biggy. Bloom vs Icy in regards to quitting. Bloom has ran away twice now for messing up; once after ruining that thing at Red kisima, chemchemi and once in season 6. Bloom is constantly quitting and giving up. Whereas Icy, despite losing in 4 season finales, still hasn't done so. Icy doesn't quit when she wants something she keeps going for it. When Bloom feels pressured she cracks.
Icy is confident. She always was, from the very beginning. Bloom still seems rather insecure--and unreasonably so considering she's 'the most powerful ever'. That alone is a pretty big deciding factor. If neither of them had powers au help I think confidence alone would lead Icy to win.
As mentioned above, Bloom is nothing without her Dragon Fire.
But enough about Bloom. Let's talk about Icy for a few minutes. This woman is fierce! As I alisema before, she is confidant and never gives up. But something new; she's willing to take on tasks that are above her skill-level rather than below it. She will and has willingly taken on all six Winx and the Specialists at once in season 2. That takes a lot of nerve. Most people would run away when so largely out numbered. She did not. And this happened on many occasions. She took down all of pixie village kwa herselfk. In one of the first few episodes of season 3 she was alone and fighting pretty much all of the Winx. She's taken on Griffin (someone she knows is zaidi powerful than she. Yes I do think the professors are naturally the strongest characters) on many occasions. Again, that takes balls.
Which leads to the inayofuata point. Icy is brave. If she enters these things knowing very well what's at stake and still goes for it, that's saying something. And up until the disappointment that was seasons 5 and 6, she never cried to anyone for help and she never really fled from a fight. She stuck it out and she did it either on her own au with Darcy and Stormy. And even with them, she didn't rely on them to save her. The Trix don't rely on each other to fight for each other. They don't have to.
Also can we discuss that 1.) She summoned an army of rot and decay. Centuries of it. And 2.) She very well was super close to taking over the world 4 times now. Getting even close to world domination is a pain in the butthole for most characters. She did it 4 times over.
And last but not least; Icy has taken a lot of abuse. She is tough. Season after season she has been put through a lot of crap.
- Knocked out in the finale
- Tossed into a strange dimension kwa Darkar
- Tossed into a lake and turned into a kid
- Inside a collapsing building which flooded (in season 2 'Last Resorts')
- The whole thing with the Queen of perfection
- And a crap ton zaidi that I can't even begin to orodha off
And here she is, still going for it. Still alive. And still really powerful, brave, and unwilling to give up. She is tough.
Sheer power isn't the only factor as everyone seems to believe. So many people are quick to hit the Bloom choice simply because the woman has the all powerful (cheat code I like to call) Dragon Fire. Take that out and add in all these other factors and see who wins.
Over on the most hivi karibuni (as of 6/6/14) Bloom vs Icy kura ya maoni I ended up leaving an makala long maoni backing my choice. I decided to retype that here and add even zaidi opinions. Enjoy. And no I am not trying to offend Bloom fans
The only reason I think Bloom wins any fight is because she as 1.) mwandishi bias on her side and 2.) The 'the main character always wins' rule on her side. If she were any other character--particularly a villain, her fighting skills would be a big joke.
In regards to mwandishi bias; it is so clear to see that Inigo (sp?) favors Bloom. It's in the promos and the over-load of her. So of course she's always gonna win and 'be the most powerful'. I'm not one to disagree with the mwandishi but come on--this is the man who alisema (and I don't mean to hate on her, she's cool) Flora is the 2nd most powerful. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Inigo always gave the impression that Stella held that position. I don't really even like her and I can see that. So I think it's fair to say that just because Inigo says Bloom is the almighty, all powerful doesn't mean it's true. As an aspiring mwandishi myself, nothing makes me madder than to see an mwandishi clearly favoring one character to the others. That is what makes for a Sue. And that favoritism is why Bloom always wins. It's not about her being zaidi powerful, it's her being zaidi liked.
And naturally she has 'the main character always wins' on her side. That's a given. Authors simply do not like it when the bad guys win. So of course Bloom will always beat Icy in the end, that's a typical rule of most any form of entertainment. It's the fights in between that really count when gauging who the zaidi powerful is. The fights in between are the ones that are fair. The ones that don't really have the miracle solution because not much is at stake.
Frankly I don't care how many times the creators say Bloom is the most powerful--she's not, the dragon moto is. Without it she is nothing. She is very naive and easy to manipulate. She would have died in episode 2 if not for Stella. She usually doesn't hold up well without the rest of her team to help her. And when she Lost the dragon moto she was defeated so easily. She gave up so easily too. Whereas in the hivi karibuni episode when the others Lost their powers they were still able to fight and do so well.
Taken from my article; without her Marafiki Bloom is noting. She's helpless and can't do a darn thing. No joke, Icy would've killed her in episode two (ya know when she froze her in a block of ice after getting caught spying). Stella was the only reason her arse wasn't frozen solid. Not to mention she was totally helpless without her silly dragon fire, all she did was cry and sulk. "Omg I Lost my magic what am I gonna do?" Seriously what kind of leader just gives up like that? Hearing her mope was infuriating. It's like, hello, quite moping and do something about it! She's the same way with her not knowing her true background. Instead of moping about how she doesn't know who she is she should've actually done something about it! I know for a fact that if Icy didn't know her history she would actually try to uncover it insread of crying. But no, all throughout season one it was 'but I don't know who I really am' 'who am I where do I come from' 'am I even a fairy'. To make things worse her confusion made her pathetically easy to manipulate; the trix and Mrs. Griffen successfully got her to think she was a witch, and that her parents were the ancestral witches. Talk about gullible.
I'd like to highlight the fact that Icy would have killed her in episode two and then promptly add that she would have done so again in season 1 in the episode where she turned Mirta into a pumpkin. Again, it was Stella who came to her rescue. And if I remember right she almost killed her again in season 2 (the episode where the first encounter the Trix again). This time it was Avalon who saved them all--particularly Bloom, he went and healed her and took down the Trix who totally had the upper hand in that one.
Let's not forget that in season 5 the Trix totally had the lilo au whatever. The only reason they Lost was because the Winx got literally the whole town to go against 3 people.
My sparkling point is; Bloom and the Winx usually only beat the Trix out of sheer luck au with help. Any time the Trix almost win, some third party au miracle solution comes to fix it especially with Bloom.
So let's take a look at what happens without those two factors; season 1 episode 18. Icy kicked Bloom's butt! She won. Why, because the mwandishi finally gave her the lower-hand and finally didn't have a third party, another Winx, au a 'plot-twist' to come to her aid. That's just something I've come to notice. The Trix win when it's a fair (not six vs 3+) fight. And when Icy faces Bloom alone, she usually comes out on top. Take season 1 episode 9 for instance (the magical reality thing) they kicked her butt, they successfully got her to use the dragon moto which was their plan the whole time. Things like that.
Going back to the whole miracle solution thing; I strongly believe that the only reason Bloom won in the season finale was because of one of those. Icy totally won--she got the dragon fire. But surprise surprise, here comes the miracle; there were two dragon fires! Excuse me, what? No. Bloom should have had to take it back fair and square, but she got the easy way out. Icy would have won. If we're talking fair-played no 'awesome' plot-twist, Icy would have won that one.
Personality is another biggy. Bloom vs Icy in regards to quitting. Bloom has ran away twice now for messing up; once after ruining that thing at Red kisima, chemchemi and once in season 6. Bloom is constantly quitting and giving up. Whereas Icy, despite losing in 4 season finales, still hasn't done so. Icy doesn't quit when she wants something she keeps going for it. When Bloom feels pressured she cracks.
Icy is confident. She always was, from the very beginning. Bloom still seems rather insecure--and unreasonably so considering she's 'the most powerful ever'. That alone is a pretty big deciding factor. If neither of them had powers au help I think confidence alone would lead Icy to win.
As mentioned above, Bloom is nothing without her Dragon Fire.
But enough about Bloom. Let's talk about Icy for a few minutes. This woman is fierce! As I alisema before, she is confidant and never gives up. But something new; she's willing to take on tasks that are above her skill-level rather than below it. She will and has willingly taken on all six Winx and the Specialists at once in season 2. That takes a lot of nerve. Most people would run away when so largely out numbered. She did not. And this happened on many occasions. She took down all of pixie village kwa herselfk. In one of the first few episodes of season 3 she was alone and fighting pretty much all of the Winx. She's taken on Griffin (someone she knows is zaidi powerful than she. Yes I do think the professors are naturally the strongest characters) on many occasions. Again, that takes balls.
Which leads to the inayofuata point. Icy is brave. If she enters these things knowing very well what's at stake and still goes for it, that's saying something. And up until the disappointment that was seasons 5 and 6, she never cried to anyone for help and she never really fled from a fight. She stuck it out and she did it either on her own au with Darcy and Stormy. And even with them, she didn't rely on them to save her. The Trix don't rely on each other to fight for each other. They don't have to.
Also can we discuss that 1.) She summoned an army of rot and decay. Centuries of it. And 2.) She very well was super close to taking over the world 4 times now. Getting even close to world domination is a pain in the butthole for most characters. She did it 4 times over.
And last but not least; Icy has taken a lot of abuse. She is tough. Season after season she has been put through a lot of crap.
- Knocked out in the finale
- Tossed into a strange dimension kwa Darkar
- Tossed into a lake and turned into a kid
- Inside a collapsing building which flooded (in season 2 'Last Resorts')
- The whole thing with the Queen of perfection
- And a crap ton zaidi that I can't even begin to orodha off
And here she is, still going for it. Still alive. And still really powerful, brave, and unwilling to give up. She is tough.
Sheer power isn't the only factor as everyone seems to believe. So many people are quick to hit the Bloom choice simply because the woman has the all powerful (cheat code I like to call) Dragon Fire. Take that out and add in all these other factors and see who wins.
Voiced by:
Perla Liberatori (Original/Italian)
Jennifer Seguin (Season 1 - 4), Valentina Carnelutti (Movie 1's trailer) (Rai English)
Amy Birnbaum (4Kids)
Amy Gross (Nickelodeon)
Associations:
Amore, Pixie of Love
Ginger the poodle
Illiris, Selkie of Solarian ocean gate
Age (at first appearance): 17
Birthday:
August 18 (Original)
August 10 (4Kids)
Origin:
Solaria
Valeria (Winx Club: Quest for the Codex)
Affiliation(s):
Alfea, Winx Club, Specialists, Solaria
Powers and Abilities:
Sun/moon/star-based magic and spells
Photokinetic-related spells
Solar Empowerment
Stellar Empowerment
Lunar Empowerment
Long-distance teleportation (via Solaria ring)
Flight
First Appearance:
An Unexpected Event
Relationship(s):
Brandon (fiancé)
Queen Luna and King Radius (parents, divorced)
Countess Cassandra (almost step-mother), Chimera (almost step-sister)
Perla Liberatori (Original/Italian)
Jennifer Seguin (Season 1 - 4), Valentina Carnelutti (Movie 1's trailer) (Rai English)
Amy Birnbaum (4Kids)
Amy Gross (Nickelodeon)
Associations:
Amore, Pixie of Love
Ginger the poodle
Illiris, Selkie of Solarian ocean gate
Age (at first appearance): 17
Birthday:
August 18 (Original)
August 10 (4Kids)
Origin:
Solaria
Valeria (Winx Club: Quest for the Codex)
Affiliation(s):
Alfea, Winx Club, Specialists, Solaria
Powers and Abilities:
Sun/moon/star-based magic and spells
Photokinetic-related spells
Solar Empowerment
Stellar Empowerment
Lunar Empowerment
Long-distance teleportation (via Solaria ring)
Flight
First Appearance:
An Unexpected Event
Relationship(s):
Brandon (fiancé)
Queen Luna and King Radius (parents, divorced)
Countess Cassandra (almost step-mother), Chimera (almost step-sister)
The inayofuata day..........
The girls knock on ms. F's room....
Ms.F: Come in, girls.
The girls walked in.....
Bloom: Good Morning, Ms. F, we came to talk abut Flora.
Ms. F: Sure, Girls, go on.
Musa: Well, when we took a walk yesterday all the plants withered and the one who did it was Flora.
Stella:And, Ardin made her believe that we abandoned her in the forest.
Ms. F: What! did wewe say Ardin?
All the girls nodded.
Techna: And, we don't know how he did that.
Ms. F: Follow me.
Ms. F lead them to a room.
Ms. F: wewe may find everything here about Ardin, his powers,his victims, his enemies, and all of the spells he had,
when the girls took a look at the spell section and was surprised when they saw that Ardin has no spell about turning people to become evil.
Layla: look girls, Flora is in the victim section.
At Ardin's lair........
Icy: Ardin, i sensed that the winx is going here, we should go to another place right now.
To be continued.................
The girls knock on ms. F's room....
Ms.F: Come in, girls.
The girls walked in.....
Bloom: Good Morning, Ms. F, we came to talk abut Flora.
Ms. F: Sure, Girls, go on.
Musa: Well, when we took a walk yesterday all the plants withered and the one who did it was Flora.
Stella:And, Ardin made her believe that we abandoned her in the forest.
Ms. F: What! did wewe say Ardin?
All the girls nodded.
Techna: And, we don't know how he did that.
Ms. F: Follow me.
Ms. F lead them to a room.
Ms. F: wewe may find everything here about Ardin, his powers,his victims, his enemies, and all of the spells he had,
when the girls took a look at the spell section and was surprised when they saw that Ardin has no spell about turning people to become evil.
Layla: look girls, Flora is in the victim section.
At Ardin's lair........
Icy: Ardin, i sensed that the winx is going here, we should go to another place right now.
To be continued.................
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Bloom:sky cant get married!!
Stella:whT can we do to help?
Bloom:KILL DIASPRO!!!!
Stella:ok..wait i alisema help...NOT KILL YOUR Brain is UPSIDEDOWn!
Musa:bloom were serious
Flora:the best thing to do is get a new fianc'ee
Aisha and tecna:we agree with flora
Bloom:ok ill try tommorrow lets go to red fountain
At red fountain..
Some bila mpangilio guy:hey dex whos your crush?
Dexter:the princess of domino bloom
Stella:hey dexter
Dexter:hey stella...
Dexter:hey bloom..i was wondering wanna go out?
Bloom:sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At dexters house.....wait here check this out
/\. /\. ______
/____\/___\/_______\dexters house!!!!
|. |. |
|________|________|
Dexter:so bloom i thought wewe dated sky huh are wewe cheating!?
Bloom:no he married somone else
Dexter:wow must be painfull*trys to kiss bloom*
Bloom:woooow wooowooo wooowoooow
Dexter:what?
To be continued
Stella:whT can we do to help?
Bloom:KILL DIASPRO!!!!
Stella:ok..wait i alisema help...NOT KILL YOUR Brain is UPSIDEDOWn!
Musa:bloom were serious
Flora:the best thing to do is get a new fianc'ee
Aisha and tecna:we agree with flora
Bloom:ok ill try tommorrow lets go to red fountain
At red fountain..
Some bila mpangilio guy:hey dex whos your crush?
Dexter:the princess of domino bloom
Stella:hey dexter
Dexter:hey stella...
Dexter:hey bloom..i was wondering wanna go out?
Bloom:sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At dexters house.....wait here check this out
/\. /\. ______
/____\/___\/_______\dexters house!!!!
|. |. |
|________|________|
Dexter:so bloom i thought wewe dated sky huh are wewe cheating!?
Bloom:no he married somone else
Dexter:wow must be painfull*trys to kiss bloom*
Bloom:woooow wooowooo wooowoooow
Dexter:what?
To be continued
Layla: Whoa, is that Timmy?
Flora: I think it is.
Tecna was in shock and not to mention heartbroken. She starts to get a tear in her eye.
Musa: Oh Tecna.
Musa moves over to her and gives her a small hug.
Brandon: There’s got to be a reason for this.
Musa: Well there’s only one solution.
Sky: And whats that?
Musa: The direct approach.
Musa gets up and makes her way over to Timmy. As she makes her way over there, she faintly hears Timmy say:
Timmy: I upendo you. See wewe tomorrow.
Then the girl walks off. Musa moves over to Timmy and screams in his face:
Musa: WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT!
Timmy: What, what do wewe mean?
Musa: That girl! Who is she? Why did wewe just say I upendo wewe to her.
Suddenly Musa starts to get tears in her eyes.
Musa: How could wewe hurt Tecna like that?
Musa, than walks off, wiping away her tears.
Tecna: Come on guys, I think it’s best if we go back to Alfea.
Riven: Okay.
Flora: I think it is.
Tecna was in shock and not to mention heartbroken. She starts to get a tear in her eye.
Musa: Oh Tecna.
Musa moves over to her and gives her a small hug.
Brandon: There’s got to be a reason for this.
Musa: Well there’s only one solution.
Sky: And whats that?
Musa: The direct approach.
Musa gets up and makes her way over to Timmy. As she makes her way over there, she faintly hears Timmy say:
Timmy: I upendo you. See wewe tomorrow.
Then the girl walks off. Musa moves over to Timmy and screams in his face:
Musa: WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT!
Timmy: What, what do wewe mean?
Musa: That girl! Who is she? Why did wewe just say I upendo wewe to her.
Suddenly Musa starts to get tears in her eyes.
Musa: How could wewe hurt Tecna like that?
Musa, than walks off, wiping away her tears.
Tecna: Come on guys, I think it’s best if we go back to Alfea.
Riven: Okay.