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Is megatron,Optimus Prime, and The Fallen all brothers??

At the end of the first one Prime tells megatron "u left me no choice brother". But megatron isnt a prime. Also is the fallen a prime??
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As in the series.......... Optimus' half brother is Nemesis Prime.......... NOT Megatron
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well are u talking about animated au realish?
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The Fallen is the prime because his brothers are also primes
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MidNightX_X said:
Technicaly, in the sekunde movie, it explains that there where seven primes in the beginning that where the leaders of the Transformers. When they went looking for Energon kwa blowing up suns from distant planets they followed only one rule. not to destroy a planet with life.And then they went to earth.One of the Primes hated humans and wanted to destroy them kwa putting on the machine they used to blow up suns. They named him The Fallen. (So yeah, The Fallen was a Prime.)

As for Megatron, Optimus and the fallen being brothers... Technicaly, Optimus and the Fallen are related since they're both Primes. for Megatron to get in the mix, they all use Energon to live so they must be related. But in a way I think Optimus uses the term brother openly as "we are both the same regardless".

That's just my opinion.
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ya but we only use it openly if where religous and their is no proof that god exists. but the Transformers gods are the primes and 1 of them is still alive in the films so its doubtful optimus uses it openly because he religous people refere to each other as brother all the time optimus alisema it twice 2 megatron and not any zaidi so their brothers basically
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brother is a terminology used to describe how close two males can become in their friendship/ upendo for each other
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Quicksilver said:
Megatron and Optimus are half brothers. Optimus is a full prime and Megatron being his half brother is only half prime.
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hmm that very interesting, i diddnt even know megatron was anything, but what he is. but how can they be half bothers, how can they even reproduce.? just a thought but good that wewe knw that
KatiiCullen94 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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wait the cube gives them life like a father so who knows
mnuj12 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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megatron's not a prime but he is an @$$ hole
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For a transformer to reproduce they take a peace of there spark and put it with a female Transformers spark
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RanmaRaj said:
Its clearly stated in the film 2 that Optimus is the last living heir of the first 7 primes

So technically Fallen is Great-Great-....-Uncle of Optimus

And yes Megatron is Optimus' Half Brother
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what wewe mean like step brother as in step cube...
mnuj12 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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i thought there was only 1 cube
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in the sinema the primes where the first cybertronyons but probably requested for a full race and could make zaidi primes
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jessig said:
Megatron and Optimuse are brothers and they are desendents to The Fallen because The seven Primes and the Fallen are brothers. Jetfire explains this when he transports everyone to Egypt in the movie.
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wewe mean 6 primes the fallen was the the seventh
mnuj12 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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If u dont know that u might just be wrong... maby the fallen is a great,great,great,ect. uncle au grandfather au something
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sonicwerehog said:
No, Optimus prime and megatron are, the fallen is way older so he can not be.
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energon keeps them alive we'll never know unless any1's on speed dile with a decepticon... lol
mnuj12 posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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yah, but my sister feels like a decepticon...
sonicwerehog posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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I do sometimes I started calling myself nyota scream
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Invader-Tak said:
*blink blink* OMG, I had no idea about this. That's in a way pretty awesome.
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insane_hugz said:
Optimus Prime & The Fallen are brothers... The Fallen was one of the orginal Primes & Optimus is the last Prime... Megatron will ALWAYS be a Decepticon...
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And where r u guys gett'n that Optimus & Megatron are brothers au half-brothers? It's NEVER mention'd that they are related... The Fallen is Megatron's mentor because the Decepticons wanted to abuse the power of the All Spark & Energon...
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Sorry...... They're not half brothers
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princesskiara7 said:
Optimus and megatron are brothers,the only reason that megatron is not a prime is because back on cibertron,when optimus and megatron ruled,Optimus was fair,thus making him a prime,and megatron was firm,so he was called lord high protector.so yeah,they are brothers.
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Yellowcorvette said:
After watching Transformers II and paying close attenetion when Sam dies, there are 6 primes standing there talking to Sam. Megatron is not a "Prime". "The Fallen" is one of the original primes which makes 7, and Optimus is a decendant of them.
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Kamille6702 said:
Not Megatron!
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arekusu said:
megatron anD Optimus are brothers ("you left me no choice, brother". and various over canon sources
Optimus is a descendent of the fallen, (as stated kwa the other 6? primes "you have fought for optimus our last descendent")

and the fallen is brothers with the other 6 original primes "th fallen was stronger than his brthers"

so optimus can't be his anscestors brother (like wewe can't be your mum's sister/brother)

but at the end of RotF
the fallen "die like your brothers"
optimus "they were your brothers too"

so i'm not sure but i think that when The Fallen alisema that to Prime he just meant because they(other 6 primes) were Primes and so is Optimus.

just be glad its not as bad as the G1 constructicons origin, huh?
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linkbella said:
No, the fallen and options prime are brothers but megatron would, if related, be the cosin au the son of the fallen
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silverprime4 said:
optimus alisema that before megatron was corrupted that he was like a brother and the fallen is like optimus's great great great etc. uncle au something
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jman2001 said:
since all the highest in command at cybertron are primes and only a prime can kill a prime, that should indicate that megatron is a prime.
so they all should be related (but not brothers)since the fallen is way older than optimus and megatron.
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decepticanhata said:
No the fallen is one of the original Primes he just betrayed his brothers
As for megatron, he and optimus used to be Marafiki while he was a gladiator before megatron became a freedom fighter and eventually became mad with power and ......EVIL!!!!!!
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Dramis said:
The Fallen was originally Megatronus Prime. Megatron named himself after him before he became leader of the Decepticons. Optimus was originally Orion Pax, and was chosen to be the last Prime. They're not actually related. Optimus calls Megatron "brother," because they were close like brothers before the war, but not literally brothers. Realisticly, one of them may have been a decendant of the Fallen, but there are no hints to this.
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wisenick said:
Yes they are all brothers plus more.
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Zanster said:
Megatron isn't Optimus' brother, Optimus was once known as Orion Pax, and Megatron was once known as Megatronus (Copied name as The Fallen before having the Prime title taken off him), Megatronus was Orion's idol, Orion wanting to learn about the history and future of Cybertron, when Megatronus was going to the high council to say his vision and maybe become a Prime, he saw fit to change his name, to Megatron, he demanded he should become Prime, but the council were moved kwa Orion's words, this made Megatron angry, and created the decepticons, when Orion went to the moyo of Primus, he got aliyopewa the Matrix of leadership, naming him Optimus Prime, so no, Megatron and Optimus are not brothers.

As for The Fallen and Optimus Prime, all Primes are brothers, so if The Fallen was a prime, and Optimus is a prime, they are brothers, just very far apart.
NOTE: There brother meaning and our brother meaning are different.
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ollie-rapp said:
optimus is a descendant of the fallen as they are both primes, in Transformers lore megatron was part of a rebellion against the cybertron society for the freedom of all transformers, at the time optimus was just a dawati clerk but he joined the rebellion and became good Marafiki with megatron. which is why optimus refers to megatron as a brother
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Ironhide321 said:
Megatron and optimus are like brothers in arms they aren't real brothers they were comrads then megatron turned evil.

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anime_love12 said:
Megateon and the fallen aka megatronus are half brothers and there father and teacher is sentinal prime. Megatron had a resentment towards the fallen because he got special attention for being a prime as for optimistic he is decendan of sentinal and also the last prime and there are 13 primes all together and the fallen got the name the fallen after killing solous prime not for hating humans.
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prime859 said:
Optimus and megatron are 1/2 brothers
The fallen is related to optimus as the fallen was 1 of the original 7 prime brothers and as optimus is a prime he is a descendant making the fallen either a great-great.......grandfather au a great-great......uncle
Hope this helps
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briccross said:
so many incorrect majibu in here being parroted.

1) megatron and optimus arent brothers of any variety, only in the sense that they’re both cybertronians that’ve known each other a long time

2) the fallen and optimus ARE brothers as optimus isnt a “descendant” of the primes, he’s the last of them. he was the final prime created who then got jaded w it all and chose to be reborn as a normal cybertronian, orion pax, who then went on to return to being a prime once more.

3) nemesis prime is also not optimus brother, he’s either his clone au future corrupted self depending on the depiction. ill assume the clones the one being conflated to a brother which ig is fair enough, evil twin. but zaidi recently nemesis is just an optimus thats been influenced kwa unicron
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