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Critical Analysis of Twilight Swali

Why is "Twilight" a zaidi divisive and violent trend than other teen fads?

We all know Twilight isn't the first obsession of teenagers. It was preceded kwa obsessions over things like American Idol, The OC, Harry Potter, MTV, et cetera, et cetera.

On Fanpop, there is no "Critical Analysis of Harry Potter" spot. Mostly because, the mashabiki of the HP spot seem to do that on their own. So what made this spot necessary? Several things. Twilight bred animosity between mashabiki and non-fans, which often escalated into physical violence. Some see shadowy "moral messages" in the vitabu that they wished to explore. And some wanted to sign a peace treaty to end the various wars within the fandom (IE Team Edward Vs Team Jacob).

But my swali is - Why has the Twilight phenomenon warped people's minds zaidi than any other phenomenon? I'm not just talking fans, but of people who don't like the series. Why is there so much drama associated with Twilight?
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Critical Analysis of Twilight Majibu

Asvini said:
When it comes to why antis are so annoyed kwa it (aside from the annoyance simply bred kwa severe overexposure) I think it's because there has never been such a maarufu fad with such arguably damaging themes. Obviously it's all a matter of opinion, but the glamorisation of abusive relationships and the sexism all aimed at a vulnerable age young enough to be influenced kwa it is something I have never seen on such a scale. I personally get annoyed kwa it because I worry for it's fans, and about what kind of message regarding themselves and their partners young women are being aliyopewa and happily eating up. When someone simply enjoys the story but is in no way influenced kwa it I have no issue with Twilight, but when there are hordes of girls wishing for a man who will watch them sleep before they even date, who will tell them what to do, who will destroy their car to prevent them from seeing other men it makes my skin crawl. There are just so many things in the vitabu I feel send poor messages to young women, and seeing those young women happily regard it as the ideal is both sad and scary to me.

As for fans, I've alisema before I think some mashabiki feel such devotion because many identify themselves as being plain and unpopular 'just like Bella' so not only does the idea of someone just like them going to a town, without any effort becoming maarufu and immediately having super powered upendo Gods falling for them appeal in a great way, but there's also the fact that joining the Twilight community and obsessing with the others offers those apparently unpopular girls widespread social acceptance for the first time. When antis attack the series taking it personally becomes easier because it's not just their favourite book being attacked, to some of them it's both their ndoto and their first welcoming community under attack. I wouldn't say that's true of all mashabiki at all, but based on personal experience that's my guess for the zaidi fanatic of them.

It's a vicious circle, because the zaidi obsessed the core fanbase becomes the zaidi daunting and annoying it becomes to antis, and when antis get zaidi annoyed kwa it a certain type of the mashabiki seem to cling even tighter to it and become zaidi blindly loyal (Not to imply anyone who loves the series is just blindly loyal, just some of the zaidi fanatic of the core fanbase seem to get that way in the face of any criticism).
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Totally and completely agree with you. I think wewe covered everything pretty thoroughly, lol. I think the only thing I would add is this (and this is just my opinion): quite frankly, I think girls have become so starved for an example of pure, true, everlasting upendo that they've latched onto the first thing that looks like it. Take a look at the world around us. Parents are divorcing left and right, sex and upendo have become distorted and confused to be the same thing, teens are constantly "hooking up" and breaking up again, upendo has turned into a selfish contract rather than a gift ("I'll stay with wewe as long as wewe hold up your end"), Happily Ever After has virtually become a myth...our culture is seriously messed up. Girls want to have standards and believe in true, TRUE upendo again. And they found...Twilight. =(
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OK, Asivini. But what about the wars WITHIN the fandom? People getting in fights because they're "Team Jacob" and not "Team Edward"? I feel like Twilight is some sort of party drug that amplifies your emotions...
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That's true, Dearheart. There are several fights in the One mti kilima fandom over things like that that we've seen on fanpop. And wewe make good points to, Asvini. OK, I think I'm satisfied.
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hamishblakefan said:
Because young girls fantasise a man who wants to look at them in their room and loves the mystery of a vampire who stays in their young form forever.... cougars!

I honestly think that its because the are neglected and need upendo from a silent stalker!
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OK. But about twelve years ago, I remember the movie Titanic was ALL the rage. Girls were drooling over Leo DiCaprio, but no one got into fights about whether au not someone liked the movie au not. That was a romance that kids kept in control. Why is Twilight is Twilight so violence-inducing?
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zelo said:
Because Stephenie Myers has a system to control the minds of many people...she waves her wicked sparkly-vampire spell and BOOM, many innocent people are all of a sudden moronic-twi-hards.
Hahahaha, if that was true, then well that's all the answer wewe need, but I think the idea, of irrevocable and unconditional love, really makes a lot of teens hearts melt and fall into a upendo story. Many people can deny that they hat fairy tale, upendo stories about way too stalker-ish (and unhealthy) love, but then they say they upendo Twilight, which makes them hypocrites. For me, Twilight is something that I have had a dreadful experience with, and so I can't even get myself to feel even a bit of liking for it. People sometimes need that kind of upendo in their life, which, I might think it is the dumbest thing in the world, but who am I to judge, and so Twilight offers them something which they can easily relate to. Was that a decent answer, hmmm..
if that wasn't anyway good, then all I can say is that Twi-hards might have been banged on the head if they were a kid, atleast the rude ones were...
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November99 said:
I think awali fads weren't so bad because our society wasn't so violent & sexual. I'll use your example of Titanic. That came out in the early 90's, and if wewe watch 90's TV shows, they were zaidi subtle in their sexuality and the violence wasn't as extreme.

I watched the series finaly of Monk today (all 2 hours of it) and was surprised to see someone getting hit kwa a train on screen. And then wewe have Miley dancing around stage half naked. Nuff said.

I could be wrong, but I like some of the 90's shows and do watch them, and it looks like our society got a lot zaidi violent and sexual over the last 20 years.
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Perfect answer! It's sooo much better than my blabbering!
zelo posted zaidi ya mwaka mmoja uliopita
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No, I think it's too easy to blame the media. Twilight itself is overly sexualized, but I don't think the FCC is any zaidi lenient today than it was fifteen years ago. And Titanic was released in 1997 - So was Sex and the City.
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Other televisheni shows/movies released in the nineties with violence/sex as main themes: Mortal Kombat (1995), Resevoir mbwa (1992), Pulp Fiction (1994), Cruel Intentions (1999), Tales from the Crypt (1989-1996), the X-Files (1993-2002), Homicide: Life on the Streets (1993-1999) - just to name a few.
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HerMelody said:
I want to give a great answer to this, but I can't. I wonder the same things. Like, when I was a kid, I'm talking about 9, 10 years old, most of muziki was... kid-friendly. There were loads of bands that kids loved, and were perfect for kids to love. They were cheesey, they were clean. And muziki from decades ago, clean. Now... what the hell can I say about now? muziki is all sex sex sex... how did that happen? It seemed to suddenly shift that way around 2002 au 2003... and since then, everything seems so sex-obsessed. I know I sound like I'm rambling off-topic, but... I feel like society has just turned a bit crazy in the last few years... everything is so intense now... I have no idea how it happened. Maybe people just get zaidi wild as the years go by?... That's my theory. Look at 20, 30 years ago... now look at today!...
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I just wanted to say. Songs from the sixties and seventies? All about sex, drugs and rock and rooooooll. I think people have a tendency to remember things from their childhood (which was most likely censored kwa their parents) and apply it to the whole time period. The same goes for why November didn't remember any violent au sexy movies/television shows in the nineties-- because she didn't watch any at that age.
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I think society has gone downhill and will continue to (I know, how morbid). Girls will be even crazier for a new trend in 5 au 10 years.
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Impulse85 said:
I have noticed to, that both haters and mashabiki take their passions way too far when it comes to this book, but why I get so angry is because I do see the harmful messages in this book and when I try to point out to a Twi-hard why I don't like the book and even read some of the lines from the book to prove my point, I find it to get as frusterating as beating a brick ukuta with a small hammer, nothing is getting through. I want to explain myself and try to help them see the problems. Not because I want them to hate the book, but because I just don't want them going out trying to find someone like Edward. Cause in the real world, finding someone like Edward is very simple and it's dangerous. It's not hard to find an abusive, stalking, pedophile. I want my Marafiki to be salama and open their eyes. I used to be obssessed with finding someone like Edward and I paid for it. It just makes me angry when I think about the tons of girls that will have to pay the same price I did if not higher because of Edward's character being glorified like he is. That's like glorifying Ted Bundy au John Wayne Gacey. These people are the lowest of the low, but yet trying to get that through a Twi-hards head, it's as sensless as beating pavement with house hold hammer and it can easily anger anyone who tries. Okay...I'm done rambling. I think I just told wewe why Twihaters can get violent, but I don't think I thouched on Twi-hards. My only guess for them...Kathy Bates from Misery...that's all I got. People that just can't tell fact from fiction. They've over identified themselves so much with these fictional characters that thay've began to take all critisim as a personal attack almost believing that they themselves either are the characters being talked about au they have some sort of false sense of loality to them...that's my theory anyway. These ppl are so insecure that they've used these characters to fill the void in their lives.
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 I have noticed to, that both haters and mashabiki take their passions way too far when it comes to this book, but why I get so angry is because I do see the harmful messages in this book and when I try to point out to a Twi-hard why I don't like the book and even read some of the lines from the book to prove my point, I find it to get as frusterating as beating a brick ukuta with a small hammer, nothing is getting through. I want to explain myself and try to help them see the problems. Not because I want them to hate the book, but because I just don't want them going out trying to find someone like Edward. Cause in the real world, finding someone like Edward is very simple and it's dangerous. It's not hard to find an abusive, stalking, pedophile. I want my Marafiki to be salama and open their eyes. I used to be obssessed with finding someone like Edward and I paid for it. It just makes me angry when I think about the tons of girls that will have to pay the same price I did if not higher because of Edward's character being glorified like he is. That's like glorifying Ted Bundy au John Wayne Gacey. These people are the lowest of the low, but yet trying to get that through a Twi-hards head, it's as sensless as beating pavement with house hold hammer and it can easily anger anyone who tries. Okay...I'm done rambling. I think I just told wewe why Twihaters can get violent, but I don't think I thouched on Twi-hards. My only guess for them...Kathy Bates from Misery...that's all I got. People that just can't tell fact from fiction. They've over identified themselves so much with these fictional characters that thay've began to take all critisim as a personal attack almost believing that they themselves either are the characters being talked about au they have some sort of false sense of loality to them...that's my theory anyway. These ppl are so insecure that they've used these characters to fill the void in their lives.
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nuxi said:
In elementary school, I Lost a lot of Marafiki because I wasn't into the spice girls. It wasn't because my Marafiki disowned me because I didn't like them, the way Twilight has caused rifts in relationships. However, at parties and school and wherever, the spice girls were literally all they would want to talk about so we eventually drifted apart and I found Marafiki I could relate to better. I just now realized that this is a tamer version of the Twilight effect, but zaidi unconscious and unintentional. I think it kind of helps me understand it better kwa putting into the perspective of a spectrum, but I still have no sympathy for twifans who are outright hateful and vicious towards those who disagree with them.
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 In elementary school, I Lost a lot of Marafiki because I wasn't into the spice girls. It wasn't because my Marafiki disowned me because I didn't like them, the way Twilight has caused rifts in relationships. However, at parties and school and wherever, the spice girls were literally all they would want to talk about so we eventually drifted apart and I found Marafiki I could relate to better. I just now realized that this is a tamer version of the Twilight effect, but zaidi unconscious and unintentional. I think it kind of helps me understand it better kwa putting into the perspective of a spectrum, but I still have no sympathy for twifans who are outright hateful and vicious towards those who disagree with them.
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