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Winx Club Who has better ice magic?
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I'm going to be honest and say I've only seen Gray fight like once. Icy though has been seen summoning ice dragons, she's frozen people solid (and I'm not saying she just covered them in frost, I'm saying she turned them into ice sculptures), she froze a building and toppled it so. She's frozen a person's wings and shattered them--I can imagine (if Winx weren't aimed at children) she could do the same to people.
And if we wanna talk all morbid as some of you fairy tail fans seem to like to do; Icy could freeze then solid and smash him into nothing. Impalement is also an option. And like Grey, Icy has been seen to craft many things out of ice--pretty much anything really. She can also teleport away so she's got speed going for her too. So basically she can do what he does and then some. Alongside a lack of a moral compass. Gray ain't got nothing on her. Ain't no one swaying me on the one.
Like legit make all the silly polls ya'll want on Bloom because I don't like her, but I'll be damned if people start bashing on Icy. Imma say it right now if the trash talking starts about Icy we're gonna have a problem.
*cracks knuckles*
And for the sake of it, as you might have guessed, “morbid” is my second name?
And as a FYI, if I had to pick a favourite Winx character it would be Icy, for the record Gray’s not even my favourite Fairy Tail character? (It’s Laxus!)
Now I just did a quick read though Icy’s "powers" on wiki, and absolutely nowhere on it could I find "immunity to cold/ice or freezing to death" I couldn't even find resistance?
Which basically means, Icy herself is vulnerable to ice/cold attack?
While it is repeatedly mentioned in Fairy Tail that Gray is "immune to the cold or freezing"
Meaning naturally Gray’s attacks will damage her more that hers will him?
And sure! Impalement is option for her, but it’s also an option for Gray?
It just too bad that Gray’s already been, stabbed, cut, run through and killed (don’t ask?) before,
and Icy has absolutely no experience in that sort of pain or situation, while Gray has experience them before, and you know what?
he still got up and beat the dental work out of his opponent.
So she’s at the disadvantage?
And before you try to pull a “she’ll just freeze him before he can attack” claim, I’ll have you know that as for this "freezing solid' fact, I’m sorry to inform you Zanhar1 but Gray has already topped her in chapter 398, when he snap froze multiple twisters in an instance.
Yes, you read that right, he froze freaking AIR that was moving at over 200km an hour.
in.an.instance.
As for Icy ‘matching’ Gray’s makes with her own, you might wanna take in the fact that you need to be ‘creative’ and that something that Icy is not.
(Judging from her terrible plots/plans that are about as complex as a toddlers puzzle box?)
Not to mention that she has never created anything but general ice creations are just basic ice shard?
(Wow... original)
so how do you even know if she can change its shape?
Gray durability against ice attacks would come into considerations to, Lyons 'ice eagles' are pretty much an advanced for of all Icy's ice shard attacks, and Gray has been hit by that attack repetitively and only taken minimal damage?
Meaning Icy's attacks will do next to nothing to him.
Grey has also inherited the magic "ice demon slayer" and anyone who knows anything about Fairy Tail, knows a slayer eats theirs chosen element?
Which basically means Gray would just eat all of Icy’s attacks, and then use that very power to turn the witch into a living pin cushion.
And, for the hundredth time, I’m must revoke that fact that….
WINX CHARACTER CANT FIGHT CLOSE COMBAT!!!!
Gray's magic is mostly used in close combat!!!! Icy has no defences against a fist to the face,
because unlike everybody else in the Winx universe, Gray isn’t afraid to break someone’s nose, male or female.
Because he doesn't throw petty attacks that are as small as a softball, his attacks range 20 meters in all directions,
you can claim Icy's is fast enough to dodge the winx's 1k per hour magic,
But she's out of her league against Gray?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Fairy Tail is on a whole other level to winx?
Or in the words of Nick Fury?
Winx = ant
Fairy Tail = boot
ICY=ICE SHARDS IN THE AIR
GRAY=2 HUGE SWORDS THAT HE MADE HIMSELF WITH HIS MAGIC
Icy, DOESNT STAND A CHANCE
Not everyone has watched FT, you have to keep that in mind. And then there's bias--which is present in both of your arguments. Of course Zannie is going to pick Icy, since that's her favorite character. However, you both (Warrant4Arrest and xTitaniax) are, of course, going to go with the characters from your anime/manga.
No matter how many examples you throw out, it won't change the fact that you're basically writing yourselves into the grave since neither one of you is going to change your choice on this matter.
Also, you gotta keep in mind that regardless of theories on how morbid Icy could really get with her attacks, we never have a definitive look on what they would be, since the show is...hmm...for kids around 7-9 years old. Fairy Tale is obviously for much older audiences, which I can tell from the descriptions of what Gray has been through. That kinda shit would never fly past the freakin' FCC.
btw, Warrant, your first argument is made moot because Icy's heart is made of ice. Seriously. So no, she wouldn't be incapacitated by her own element.
Okay, I'm done ranting now. You two just need to learn that not everyone is going to share your opinions on certain subjects, and that yELLING AT PEOPLE TO DO IT--is not going to help your case.
*cracks knuckles*
And for the sake of it, as you might have guessed, “morbid” is my second name?
And as a FYI, if I had to pick a favourite Winx character it would be Icy, for the record Gray’s not even my favourite Fairy Tail character?
Alright, Kay then I said I was done being nice about this and I said no one was gonna talk shit about Icy and get away with it so here we go! Clearly there's not enough respect here for others to knock it off when you're asked nicely so I really don't care who your favorites are. If you like Icy as a character act like, it don't make everything into some pointless competition.
My vote isn't changing period point blank end of story I don't even know why you're trying to change my mind, I've obsessed over Icy since grade school and that isn't going to change because someone who thinks she's sooo much better than everyone else is going to change it.
Now I just did a quick read though Icy’s "powers" on wiki,
Imma just gonna say quick read of anything isn't enough to judge. Much less a quick read of wiki of all sources! Like really, oh hoo freaking rah! You read wiki! The least reliable source out there! You know fans can edit that right? You know that lots of stuff is left out right? You know that on Icy's page in particular I can name at least 3 things that are wrong or we're never explicitly stated in the show (such as her age) heck they didn't even finish writing her season 6 bio! So much is left out on that wiki article. Don't try to pull the 'lol I read wiki comment' because it's not an accurate source. Nice try. That's as good as my knowledge of Fairy Tail. A quick read of the Fairy Tale wiki wouldn't be enough for me to judge accurately and fairly. What you just told me is like me telling you that I watched Fairy Tail and know Grey because I watched the first few episodes.
and absolutely nowhere on it could I find "immunity to cold/ice or freezing to death" I couldn't even find resistance?
Yeah, probably because it was left out, like her season 6 bio (lol at the wiki page for being out if date). If you watched season 3 it was shown that she was frozen for quite a long time as she was being shipped to prison between dimensions. Her time under that I did nothing. Nada. Zip. The first thing she said when she broke out of that I've was something along the lines of "they tried to freeze my heart, don't they know my heart is already cold as ice?" Her time under that ice had no effect on her whatsoever.
Which basically means, Icy herself is vulnerable to ice/cold attack?
Already discussed this one. Before invading a spot with vs polls at least try to watch the show. That isn't too unreasonable to ask is it?
While it is repeatedly mentioned in Fairy Tail that Gray is "immune to the cold or freezing"
As I said above it was mentioned a few of the episodes in the show (but was left out on the fan-edited wiki). Her immunity to cold was mentioned more in the comics.
Meaning naturally Gray’s attacks will damage her more that hers will him?
Kay now, let's not make up our own rules; resistance and power have nothing to do with each other. In fact in most shows if a person is good with defense and immunity their weakness is usually in raw power. I see no correlation between immunity and strike damage. There is no natural connection between the two. You're just speculating. And your speculation is good as mine. Don't walk around like your opinion is some kind of rule.
(It is at this point on my comment that my chill is returning. I'm gonna try to hold it for a bit longer since you're comment thus far isn't as insulting as I thought it was going to be.)
And sure! Impalement is option for her, but it’s also an option for Gray?
Fair enough. So it then comes down to speed. I don't know enough about fairy tale to know his speed. Icy can fly and teleport which usually aids in speed.
It just too bad that Gray’s already been, stabbed, cut, run through and killed (don’t ask?) before,
and Icy has absolutely no experience in that sort of pain or situation,
Trust me icy has been through a fair deal of crap too. Keep on mind Winx is a kid's show so they can't show blood! Fairy Tale and Winx are two hugely different genres so this really is kind of an unfair argument in that sense. Icy in the magazine (the comic spin off of Winx) has in fact been visibly bruised and battered. In the comic that took place between seasons two and three she and her sisters were pretty much forced to fight to survive for a while, living off the land as they tried not to get caught and sent back to prison. They were also blasted into a sort of purgatory. She has as much experience with violence as you can show on a kids show without being to brutal for the target audience.
while Gray has experience them before, and you know what?
he still got up and beat the dental work out of his opponent.
So she’s at the disadvantage?
As I said, Icy has experienced a fair deal herself. And if Winx wasn't a kids show she probably would have had it a lot worse. So I repeat, the more I think about it the more biased and unfair this whole Fairy Tale vs Winx debate is. But I'm not backing down in saying that Icy will win, I'm just gonna have to play it as if Winx is an anime that's not aimed for kids. The only real disadvantage Icy has is that she's from a kids show so they can't exploit as much of her power as they can. Because of the target audience they can't beat the dental work, per-say, out of another character. I have no doubt in my mind that she could though.
And before you try to pull a “she’ll just freeze him before he can attack” claim, I’ll have you know that as for this "freezing solid' fact, I’m sorry to inform you Zanhar1 but Gray has already topped her in chapter 398, when he snap froze multiple twisters in an instance.
I already pulled that fyi, and by all means I wouldn't rule it out. Don't be sorry because I'm simply not swayed. I stick to my opinion and I stick to it firmly. Much like you haven't watched Winx much nor read the Winx comics, I haven't read Fairy Tail. I have no clue what happened in chapter 398. Whatever it as I'm sure Icy could hold her own. Based on what you said I'm not super impressed. Yeah it's cool that he can freeze many tornadoes at once. But Icy has frozen over a whole forest. She froze one of the fariy's wings off. She froze and toppled a building. And in the Winx finale she froze her headmistresse's powers. The woman crated a barrier of magical energy around her and Icy shattered it. So again don't be sorry, Icy can do badass things too.
Yes, you read that right, he froze freaking AIR that was moving at over 200km an hour.
in.an.instance.
And you read mine right, she can freeze other people's magic. Icy works with a woman named Stormy. Guess what Stormy does? Stormy makes tornadoes. The damage Icy can do when combining her powers with Stormy and her tornadoes is pretty extensive.
As for Icy ‘matching’ Gray’s makes with her own, you might wanna take in the fact that you need to be ‘creative’ and that something that Icy is not.
Aw hell naw, now you're just pulling facts from nowhere. There is nothing that indicates a lack of creativity in Icy! Nothing! In fact she's come up with some really interesting plans. Like how she hacked into Bloom's magical reality test...she with help from Darcy, got herself into a virtual reality system to screw with Bloom. She also came up with the idea to disguise herself to break into targeted areas. Which is another thing--Icy can change her appearance at will. She can take on both the form of someone else or create her own identity all together (as seen in season 2 episode 8). She also formed a plan to tricking Bloom into thinking she was the villain in season 1.
Not creative? Now whose being biased? I'm sorry but this point just took the chill away for a bit.
(Judging from her terrible plots/plans that are about as complex as a toddlers puzzle box?)
Not to mention that she has never created anything but general ice creations are just basic ice shard?
(Wow... original)
Kay, so we're being sarcastic now? Guess I'll hop on board; Oh gee, I wonder why some of the plots would be child-like. Maybe because the show is aimed at children? And honestly, I don't think you've been paying attention, you haven't even given me an example of a 'toddler's puzzle' plot. And if you did I'm 90% you'd pull out the worst. Above I stated a few of the better ones. I'd also like to add that in (say) episode 3, her plan wasn't to destroy anyone or anything it was legit for a school competition so she could win a freaking gift card, she just decided that she may as well give stealing powers a go while she's at it. A lot of her plans in the beginning are actually just made for the sake of messing with people and making them feel bad. Basically she isn't giving it her all. In season 6 (much as I hate that season) she manipulated two people into joining her side. She has also been seen playing characters like Valtor, using them to meet her ends and then disposing of them after they did what she wanted them to.
Again, someone wasn't paying attention to the show. She has created ice arrows, she's created these ice crystals in which she could project her face and make another attack--it's tricky to explain. She's crafted something of a slide to help break her falls. She created an ice dragon in the season finale. In same finale she froze over an entire lake and crafted this towering structure of it that had her foe frozen over.
I'm also going to pull in that she created an army of centuries of rot and decay. And she didn't even need ice magic to do that. This army was an army of bugs that she shifted into grotesque (for a children's show) beasts.
so how do you even know if she can change its shape?
See above.
Gray durability against ice attacks would come into considerations to, Lyons 'ice eagles' are pretty much an advanced for of all Icy's ice shard attacks, and Gray has been hit by that attack repetitively and only taken minimal damage?
Meaning Icy's attacks will do next to nothing to him.
Ice dragon > Ice eagle. Icy has also sustained a considerable amount of damage and kept going. Honestly that's something pretty much universal in any magical character put in battle. She has been blasted with fireballs and brushed it off. She versed 6 on 1 and got hit by all 6 girls at once and walked out of it without a scratch--see season 3.
Following your logic, I guess no one's getting hurt in this battle then huh?
Grey has also inherited the magic "ice demon slayer" and anyone who knows anything about Fairy Tail, knows a slayer eats theirs chosen element?
Which basically means Gray would just eat all of Icy’s attacks, and then use that very power to turn the witch into a living pin cushion.
I almost feel like this is an exaggeration. That aside, who's to say that the same laws of magic from Fairy Tail would apply in the world of Winx? As of spitting the ice attacks back, dodging and shielding is a thing, in case you weren't aware. Icy could just as easily make a 'living pin cushion' of Gray. I'm also gonna go out on a whim and say (since Winx is a children's show) Gray would probably conveniently miss with any impaling attack (as every character does in a kid's show for censorship sake). Basically in a children's show any attack that could impale is invalidated no matter who the character is.
[iAnd, for the hundredth time, I’m must revoke that fact that….
WINX CHARACTER CANT FIGHT CLOSE COMBAT!!!! [/i]
THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD STOP ASKING THESE QUESTIONS!!!1!!!!11!!!! If you know you're being biased...if you already 'know' who will win, what's the point? You're now leading me to believe that you want to stir up a fight. So do you? Because based on the nature of your comments you are not just looking for a mature debate nor discussion. You just want to make people mad, which is why I may consider just flagging any Winx vs Fairy Tail content I find after this poll, unless you can convince me that you aren't trying to start something.
Gray's magic is mostly used in close combat!!!! Icy has no defences against a fist to the face,
because unlike everybody else in the Winx universe, Gray isn’t afraid to break someone’s nose, male or female.
Icy is good for long range, which would then mean she has the advantage as she can attack from afar. Oh my God... you really haven't watched Winx have you? Icy was described as cruel for the sake of being so. She wants to hurt people. She isn't afraid to do so. In season 2, she essentially killed a man--she put a spell on him that put him to sleep for 100 years minimum. The only reason he woke up is because Bloom is a Mary-Sue so of course her boyfriend can't die. I call that 'the good guy card'. Even someone who hasn't seen all of Winx should know that Icy likes tormenting and hurting people. There was a filler episode (season 1 episode 12) where she went to this beauty competition just to harm the contestants, for her personal enjoyment.
Icy has fought both men and women without hesitation and isn't afraid to do so just because she is a woman.
Because he doesn't throw petty attacks that are as small as a softball, his attacks range 20 meters in all directions,
Again, just watch the show. This is becoming really tiresome, explaining things that you could see just by watching the show. Besides, you don't need to be big and flashy all the time. Sometimes an attack can be small, quick and to the point, only damaging the target that needs to be damaged. Icy doesn't need to create a shitton of collateral damage for her attack to be good. Her small attack like encasing her opponents in a block of ice--while small--gets the job done. All 'all of his attacks are 20 meters in all directions' says to me is. 1.) the dude just likes to show off and be flashy and 2.) it for animation pleasure. I have watched enough anime to know that a lot of the attack are so huge not for power's sake but for show. To make the animation look cooler and more pleasing. It's a quality all combat anime has; super flashy attacks that show off the creator's animation skills.
you can claim Icy's is fast enough to dodge the winx's 1k per hour magic,
But she's out of her league against Gray?
Proof? There hasn't been and never will be a canon Winx vs Fairy Tail that can exploit this for sure.
I'm also gonna make my own argument here; Icy is more versatile than Gray. She isn't just limited to ice powers she can summon creatures like minatory (seen in season 1) and the army of rot. She can do sleeping spells. She can fly/teleport. She's got more range in power types.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Fairy Tail is on a whole other level to winx?
Or in the words of Nick Fury?
Again, if you think their on two different levels then just quit asking about it. If it's already dead set in your mind and there's no convincing you any other way than there's no point in these questions. And I'm gonna give you a slow clap for finally figuring out that Winx and Fairy Tail are on different levels. Literally Winx is a kids show and Fairy Tail is aimed at an older audience. So the latter of the two will always be more violent.
Winx = ant
Fairy Tail = boot
Congrats man, you knocked me out of my trying to be nice and reasonable mode again. This topic = getting old. Winx vs Fairy Tail = irrelevant to this spot and needs to stop.
At the end of the day...Yo, idgaf. This fairy tail vs winx crap is why I don't like Fairy Tail anymore period. Which is a shame because I used to like it. If you aimed to make me not want anything to do with Fairy Tail, you achieved your goal, man.
I mean seriously it's been how long since the last comment? Let this stupid Fairy Tail vs Winx thing die...it's worse than Frozen and that movie is everywhere!
Also how many people have to tell you before you get it through you closed mind that there's always going to be a bias here, there are always going to be Winx votes because your spamming our spot. To think I actually thought you were an alright and sensible debater. This argument is over, it's exhausting, I can't debate with someone who doesn't even try to see my side. Someone who isn't stating points respectfully but is littering them with insults. Someone who I feel is trying to make me feel dumb (didn't work by the way). Kay, bye.
@xTitaniax Okay so let me get this straight you're apologizing but then you go and do the same thing you apologized for only a comment down. There's no point in apologizing if you're just going to do it again. That's why I didn't accept you apology (nor did I say anything else rantish). Because I felt like it wasn't going to be genuine. You waited until someone else made a good long comment directed at me and then chose to come at me and barbiemoviefan again. Leave barbiemoviefan in peace, she really didn't do anything at all. Her comment was like 1 sentence long indicating that she doesn't want to have to justify her opinion..
@lovebaltor Thank you. Lord Jesus, thank you for showing up lovebaltor! I have been trying to drive it through their head that the results aren't as they like because this is the Winx spot, but they really just are not getting it.
I've watched some Fairy Tale but not enough to get sucked into some crazy over the top debate. And you're damn right I'm picking my favorite. Icy is probably one of my all time favorites since she's been here for so long.
And thank you! I've also been trying to bring up the target audience thing. But that's another thing that seems to go in one ear and out the other.
Please feel free to stick around and rant some more lol. Legit, when you say that yelling at people to do it won't help, you're darn right. They're just pushing me to uphold my own beliefs even firmer...also managed to make me hate Fairy Tale...
Basically I'm annoyed with the situation more than the peoples involved. And I'm sorry if I came off as being really harsh to you xTitaniax, it's just that I really don't know how to ask you people to cut it out in any other way at this point.
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