I keep running into this on different foramu ...
The answer to the Heading swali is a resounding NO!!!
This is 2 Females Fighting kwa the way ...
Female going after a Male ...
This is a subject that I am quite familiar with personally, through my own experience, experience of personal acquaintances with these creatures & extensive research.
Bearded dragoni are a dominance oriented species, solitary creatures, this is Hard Wired into their character. In their natural habitat, they do not cohabit, travel in pairs au groups, they are loners & have absolutely no familial ties. Breeding is of opportunity, not planning au emotional ties.
They do not need au want buddies. Do not get lonely. It is a proven scientific fact that they have a Severely underdeveloped portion of the brain that governs, among other things, emotion. That cute looking stacking that we often see pictures of, is not them together for warmth (Cold Blooded ;)), hugging each other, closeness, friendship, upendo au anything similar to these.
It is them vying for dominance, the better heat, the better basking spot, coveting a spot just because the other has it, to be King au Queen of the castle. This is their instinct, to dominate, the weaker ones are dominated au eliminated & it is not in their nature to be submissive.
Attitudes & demeanors can change in a mgawanyiko, baidisha second, very aggressively, to often too fast for intervention to prevent possibly very serious injury. Many BDs with missing toes, limbs, tails au worse are frequently the testimonial to this. We cannot be monitoring them 24\7, even if we could, their possible quick, seemingly unprovoked aggressive nature towards each other, at times completely out of awali character, can be, again, too fast for intervention, with devastating, possibly deadly results.
Periodically, the right combination of 2 females will be successful, but zaidi often than not, fail sooner au later. Males should never be housed together. Male/Female combinations should only be for breeding purposes, only until the deed is done (Generally dakika to a week), then immediately separated.
It only takes ONCE for serious injury to occur, no matter what the cause au motive, many times there is no apparent reason. There is not only the physical aspect, but the stress factor which affects their all round well-being, as well. While wewe may not notice physical problems (BDs Are notorious for hiding, not inaonyesha problems until too late, Dragon down) it can & will shorten their over all life expectancy.
Another aspect to consider is illness, should one get sick au have medical problems, very likely there is the possibility wewe will have two sick wanyama au at least have to have the other checked also. The price of one Vet visit, fecal & medications, would generally, pretty much cover the cost of a new setup, if wewe duka properly.
Please take this into consideration, when contemplating cohabitation. zaidi times than not, it is complications in the making, sometimes with very drastic consequences. wewe may come nyumbani to carnage that wewe won’t soon forget.
Cohabitation of BDs is for the benefit of the Keeper, whether it be for their viewing pleasure, au cost\room effectiveness. It is not in the best interest of the animal’s health & well being.
Germain
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"Excellent Article, Germain!
I can't tell wewe how many horror stories I have come across when people contact me for advice. No matter how many times I tell people dragoni should not be cohabiting, 95% of the people simply don't listen... until something tragic happens and I get a late night phone call from someone asking me to suture their dragoni back together!
They don't take my strong advice, then expect me to jump up out of my PJs and rush over to save their dragon... Not a happy camper, but I did it to help the dragoni because of their OWNERS ignorance. :mad:
I can't tell wewe how many times I hear silly things like "My dragoni are very bonded to each other and will die without each other" - dragoni don't think like that!
A dragoni world is very simple - Hierarchy. There can only be ONE king au Queen of the castle. Forcing other dragoni into submission, living in constant intimidation, fear, getting the "crap" chakula left over... if allowed kwa the Dominant Dragon. They usually are thwarting off getting attacked, become injured and sometimes even die.
Many of these "forced submissive" dragoni usually become depressed, lethargic, dehydrated, malnourished... and sadly many die.
Have I housed dragoni in the past when I was breeding them... Yes I did. Females (together in pairs) & Hatchlings (in groups of 5 - 8). I was very conscientious about it, monitored constantly for any sign of issues. Eventually they were separated for everyone's safety and peace of mind.
Trust me, when wewe make that mistake of having a dragon get severely injured, amputated kwa another dragon, eaten - wewe don't make that mistake twice, and its hard to forgive yourself because wewe were the one that forced them into that situation.
Remember dragoni don't onyesha illness well. It may look like everything is all rosie and buttercups... then WHAM out of no where for no particular reason... dragon down.
Please for the upendo of nature, and whatever may be holy upstairs DON'T DO IT!!!
__________________
Robin
Exclusive Dragons"
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The answer to the Heading swali is a resounding NO!!!
This is 2 Females Fighting kwa the way ...
Female going after a Male ...
This is a subject that I am quite familiar with personally, through my own experience, experience of personal acquaintances with these creatures & extensive research.
Bearded dragoni are a dominance oriented species, solitary creatures, this is Hard Wired into their character. In their natural habitat, they do not cohabit, travel in pairs au groups, they are loners & have absolutely no familial ties. Breeding is of opportunity, not planning au emotional ties.
They do not need au want buddies. Do not get lonely. It is a proven scientific fact that they have a Severely underdeveloped portion of the brain that governs, among other things, emotion. That cute looking stacking that we often see pictures of, is not them together for warmth (Cold Blooded ;)), hugging each other, closeness, friendship, upendo au anything similar to these.
It is them vying for dominance, the better heat, the better basking spot, coveting a spot just because the other has it, to be King au Queen of the castle. This is their instinct, to dominate, the weaker ones are dominated au eliminated & it is not in their nature to be submissive.
Attitudes & demeanors can change in a mgawanyiko, baidisha second, very aggressively, to often too fast for intervention to prevent possibly very serious injury. Many BDs with missing toes, limbs, tails au worse are frequently the testimonial to this. We cannot be monitoring them 24\7, even if we could, their possible quick, seemingly unprovoked aggressive nature towards each other, at times completely out of awali character, can be, again, too fast for intervention, with devastating, possibly deadly results.
Periodically, the right combination of 2 females will be successful, but zaidi often than not, fail sooner au later. Males should never be housed together. Male/Female combinations should only be for breeding purposes, only until the deed is done (Generally dakika to a week), then immediately separated.
It only takes ONCE for serious injury to occur, no matter what the cause au motive, many times there is no apparent reason. There is not only the physical aspect, but the stress factor which affects their all round well-being, as well. While wewe may not notice physical problems (BDs Are notorious for hiding, not inaonyesha problems until too late, Dragon down) it can & will shorten their over all life expectancy.
Another aspect to consider is illness, should one get sick au have medical problems, very likely there is the possibility wewe will have two sick wanyama au at least have to have the other checked also. The price of one Vet visit, fecal & medications, would generally, pretty much cover the cost of a new setup, if wewe duka properly.
Please take this into consideration, when contemplating cohabitation. zaidi times than not, it is complications in the making, sometimes with very drastic consequences. wewe may come nyumbani to carnage that wewe won’t soon forget.
Cohabitation of BDs is for the benefit of the Keeper, whether it be for their viewing pleasure, au cost\room effectiveness. It is not in the best interest of the animal’s health & well being.
Germain
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***QUOTE***
"Excellent Article, Germain!
I can't tell wewe how many horror stories I have come across when people contact me for advice. No matter how many times I tell people dragoni should not be cohabiting, 95% of the people simply don't listen... until something tragic happens and I get a late night phone call from someone asking me to suture their dragoni back together!
They don't take my strong advice, then expect me to jump up out of my PJs and rush over to save their dragon... Not a happy camper, but I did it to help the dragoni because of their OWNERS ignorance. :mad:
I can't tell wewe how many times I hear silly things like "My dragoni are very bonded to each other and will die without each other" - dragoni don't think like that!
A dragoni world is very simple - Hierarchy. There can only be ONE king au Queen of the castle. Forcing other dragoni into submission, living in constant intimidation, fear, getting the "crap" chakula left over... if allowed kwa the Dominant Dragon. They usually are thwarting off getting attacked, become injured and sometimes even die.
Many of these "forced submissive" dragoni usually become depressed, lethargic, dehydrated, malnourished... and sadly many die.
Have I housed dragoni in the past when I was breeding them... Yes I did. Females (together in pairs) & Hatchlings (in groups of 5 - 8). I was very conscientious about it, monitored constantly for any sign of issues. Eventually they were separated for everyone's safety and peace of mind.
Trust me, when wewe make that mistake of having a dragon get severely injured, amputated kwa another dragon, eaten - wewe don't make that mistake twice, and its hard to forgive yourself because wewe were the one that forced them into that situation.
Remember dragoni don't onyesha illness well. It may look like everything is all rosie and buttercups... then WHAM out of no where for no particular reason... dragon down.
Please for the upendo of nature, and whatever may be holy upstairs DON'T DO IT!!!
__________________
Robin
Exclusive Dragons"
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