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Debate Is torture (including waterboarding) ever an acceptable means of punishment au obtaining information?
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Torture wouldn't be used if people didn't keep secrets, but of course everyone keeps secrets.
I can't decide.
Torture goes against your basic human rights. Never stoop to that level. Also, there's a good chance that any information gained from torture is false.
It's no use and it's not very helpful. And your just hurting another person who may not even know
Sorry for such a long answer but you said explain yourself!
Torture gets you nothing except what the person being tortured thinks you want to hear. Period.
Why then, does the person deserve to have a traumatic experience where they think they're dying? In extreme circumstances, I think there are better ways of figuring things out. Even if they don't learn anything, couldn't that be better than committing a crime by assaulting someone until they cave in? That just makes us question whether authority is on the right side of the law or whether the government/ police etc. and the criminals are just involved in a dangerous fight. Then there will be no authority and everyone will stoop to the same low.
I stand by it goes against your basic human rights, which are inalienable-- that means no one, not even you, can take them from you. Even if you want to torture human rights violators, you should never sink to that level. This may be a naive, optimistic, altruistic way of looking at things, but I still strongly believe it. I am kind of naive. I'm the first to admit it.
And i wouldn't say you where naive for believing what you do Cinders, just that you have a higher morale code than me :D
BUT...if you're Jack Bauer, OK...it seems to work for him.
If your torturing these So called criminals for information - Wouldn't that suggest you hadn't convicted them yet, And as such you are infact committing a crime yourself - by completely ignoring human rights...
Human rights are inalienable, no one has the right to take them away from you, no matter what you've done. You still have those rights.
Right now it is 'because you killed a child, you don't deserve human rights' but it can easily become 'because you are black' or 'because you are Jewish'. Don't start that slippery slope.
You might think I'm overreacting, but people forget to easy what happens when one part of human rights are ignored.
In this instance it would be ignored because of things we find 'right'. Well guess what? Hitler thought his reason for denying the Jews, Sinti, Roma, Poles, Sovjet civilian their humantity was also right. There is not guarantee that if you decide right now that in certain cases the denying of human rights is right, that one day someone will use that same reasoning to deny others their human right.
Learn from history. People will always try to abuse these kind of things.
It has been proven in many books and cases where if you treat a terrorist like a god, he'll spill the beans without pain and misery
RENJI2: and what would be those reasonable circumstances according to you?
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