O Tempora o Mores
Oh the times, oh the customs
This makala is an appeal to all Twilight mashabiki out there, I invite wewe all to think over your good and bad actions here on fanpop and contemplate them.
I have seen and compared examples of the appearances of the fandoms Harry Potter and respectively Twilight when criticism appear in each other’s sites on fanpop and I am astounded kwa the comparatively aggressive tone the Twilight mashabiki carried when they respond to the alisema criticism.
Compare the responses of: link
And: link ;
Notes are to be made that both internet addresses were found kwa searching for “Harry Potter sucks” and “Twilight sucks”. I will let wewe draw your own conclusions while bearing in mind that these results are not representative for either fandom.
I recently came over this: link
while browsing fanpop and was truly shocked and much saddened to find so many aggressive and outright illegal threats being made upon the originator of this question. Why do mashabiki of Twilight feel like they have to defend their fandom so ferociously? Why do they impose threats of death and destruction upon people who dislike their fandom? To me this is comparable to religious fanatism who spawns equally hostile threats.
Compare the following partial nukuu and quotes, preserved in their original spelling:
“Satan worshipping scum…Please die and go to hell…I hope wewe get a painful disease like rectal cancer and die a slow painful death.” – Cited partially and out of context from “The God Delusion”, pp 243, Richard Dawkins.
“We will not go quietly away. If in the future that requires violence just remember wewe brought it on. My bunduki is loaded.” - Cited out of context from “The God Delusion”, pp 244, Richard Dawkins.
“AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!! I COULD SHOOT U!!!! GET UR UGLY MEAN OLD SELF AAAAAWWWWWAAAAAAAAAY FROM THIS FANSITE RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW!!!!” – Cited from link ; the commentary of the question, stephmfan215.
“stephmfan215 Ill help u kill here thats stupid to come on here if u dont like the saga now dont leave any zaidi maswali and GET OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!” – Cited from same chanzo as the awali one, twimenfan.
“u r stupid for being n the twilight shabiki club so get out
I HOPE U ROT IN HELL AFTER ALL OF THEE PEOPLE KILL U AND I ALSO HOPE TAT U GET EATEN BUY NEWBORNS U BUM FACE” - Cited from link ; the commentary of the question, twiliholic17.
Now I would think that the intention of those nukuu are mutually inseparable, death and destruction. Agree au disagree?
Why be so hostile? Twilight fans? In comparison the worst maoni to link is “YOU.NEED.ENGLISH.LESSONS.” - Addicted2TV.
Then isn’t there a great and dishonourable discrepancy in regards of civility when one compares Twilight and Harry Potter fans? At least when wewe look at the viungo provided?
What does one make of the frequent fallacious arguments made in favour of Twilight? The good looking Edward and Jacob are frequently inferred kwa mashabiki who believe this is a winning argument against criticism. Well, when one thinks through it properly, it’s not a winning argument, it’s fallacious.
What is a fallacious argument? Well, oxford English Dictionary Online defines Fallacy as:
noun (plural fallacies)
• a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound arguments: the notion that the camera never lies is a fallacy
• Logic a failure in reasoning which renders an argument invalid
• [mass noun] faulty reasoning: the potential for fallacy which lies behind the notion of self-esteem
I would like to point out definition two: Logic a failure in reasoning which renders an argument invalid.
Yes, your argument is invalid, not applicable, a failure in reasoning. And as such can be discounted from the discussion.
What is the fallacious part of the argument “Edward is good looking; therefore Twilight is a good book.”? Well, it is an non sequitur fallacy, the statement/conclusion is not supported kwa the argument; and therefore it is unsound. For who would believe that a statement is valid when it is unsupported kwa the argument?
kwa the way: The oxford English Dictionary Online defines Non Sequitur as:
• A conclusion au statement that does not logically follow from the awali argument au statement.
Summa Summarum: Dear Rabid Twilight fans, we are happily tired of being threatened and bothered kwa your fallacious statements. “Quousque tandem abutere, amici Twilightiae, patientia nostra? For how much more, Twilight fans, will wewe abuse our patience?” Then can we not coexist in civility? Please?
And to the civil Twilight fans, we are very much grateful for your existence and hopefully wewe will continue do the good work, because we mutually know that respect is two-ways.
Oh the times, oh the customs
This makala is an appeal to all Twilight mashabiki out there, I invite wewe all to think over your good and bad actions here on fanpop and contemplate them.
I have seen and compared examples of the appearances of the fandoms Harry Potter and respectively Twilight when criticism appear in each other’s sites on fanpop and I am astounded kwa the comparatively aggressive tone the Twilight mashabiki carried when they respond to the alisema criticism.
Compare the responses of: link
And: link ;
Notes are to be made that both internet addresses were found kwa searching for “Harry Potter sucks” and “Twilight sucks”. I will let wewe draw your own conclusions while bearing in mind that these results are not representative for either fandom.
I recently came over this: link
while browsing fanpop and was truly shocked and much saddened to find so many aggressive and outright illegal threats being made upon the originator of this question. Why do mashabiki of Twilight feel like they have to defend their fandom so ferociously? Why do they impose threats of death and destruction upon people who dislike their fandom? To me this is comparable to religious fanatism who spawns equally hostile threats.
Compare the following partial nukuu and quotes, preserved in their original spelling:
“Satan worshipping scum…Please die and go to hell…I hope wewe get a painful disease like rectal cancer and die a slow painful death.” – Cited partially and out of context from “The God Delusion”, pp 243, Richard Dawkins.
“We will not go quietly away. If in the future that requires violence just remember wewe brought it on. My bunduki is loaded.” - Cited out of context from “The God Delusion”, pp 244, Richard Dawkins.
“AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!! I COULD SHOOT U!!!! GET UR UGLY MEAN OLD SELF AAAAAWWWWWAAAAAAAAAY FROM THIS FANSITE RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW!!!!” – Cited from link ; the commentary of the question, stephmfan215.
“stephmfan215 Ill help u kill here thats stupid to come on here if u dont like the saga now dont leave any zaidi maswali and GET OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!” – Cited from same chanzo as the awali one, twimenfan.
“u r stupid for being n the twilight shabiki club so get out
I HOPE U ROT IN HELL AFTER ALL OF THEE PEOPLE KILL U AND I ALSO HOPE TAT U GET EATEN BUY NEWBORNS U BUM FACE” - Cited from link ; the commentary of the question, twiliholic17.
Now I would think that the intention of those nukuu are mutually inseparable, death and destruction. Agree au disagree?
Why be so hostile? Twilight fans? In comparison the worst maoni to link is “YOU.NEED.ENGLISH.LESSONS.” - Addicted2TV.
Then isn’t there a great and dishonourable discrepancy in regards of civility when one compares Twilight and Harry Potter fans? At least when wewe look at the viungo provided?
What does one make of the frequent fallacious arguments made in favour of Twilight? The good looking Edward and Jacob are frequently inferred kwa mashabiki who believe this is a winning argument against criticism. Well, when one thinks through it properly, it’s not a winning argument, it’s fallacious.
What is a fallacious argument? Well, oxford English Dictionary Online defines Fallacy as:
noun (plural fallacies)
• a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound arguments: the notion that the camera never lies is a fallacy
• Logic a failure in reasoning which renders an argument invalid
• [mass noun] faulty reasoning: the potential for fallacy which lies behind the notion of self-esteem
I would like to point out definition two: Logic a failure in reasoning which renders an argument invalid.
Yes, your argument is invalid, not applicable, a failure in reasoning. And as such can be discounted from the discussion.
What is the fallacious part of the argument “Edward is good looking; therefore Twilight is a good book.”? Well, it is an non sequitur fallacy, the statement/conclusion is not supported kwa the argument; and therefore it is unsound. For who would believe that a statement is valid when it is unsupported kwa the argument?
kwa the way: The oxford English Dictionary Online defines Non Sequitur as:
• A conclusion au statement that does not logically follow from the awali argument au statement.
Summa Summarum: Dear Rabid Twilight fans, we are happily tired of being threatened and bothered kwa your fallacious statements. “Quousque tandem abutere, amici Twilightiae, patientia nostra? For how much more, Twilight fans, will wewe abuse our patience?” Then can we not coexist in civility? Please?
And to the civil Twilight fans, we are very much grateful for your existence and hopefully wewe will continue do the good work, because we mutually know that respect is two-ways.
Jacob: Let me call Bella.*dials Bella's number*
Operator: I am sorry. This person is talking to (Bella's voice)Edward Cullen. Please leave a message after the tone.
*tone never comes up*
Jacob: OH C'MON!
The inayofuata day.
Jacob: I want Bella NAO!*calls Bella*
(Answering machine): The Swans are out right now, please leave a message after the beep.
[beep never stops]
Jacob: OH C'MON!
The siku after that:
Bella: *makes a new answering machine*
Jacob: *calls*
[Machine]: Hi, its Bella. If its Jacob, stop leaving messages saying "OH C'MON!" and if your not a Cullen au my dad, don't call me. At ALL!
*beep*
Jacob: NOOOOOO!
*beep*
Jacob: ?
*beep beep beep beep*
{This phone will self destruct in 3, 2, 1}
Jacob: OH C'MON!
[Check the TS spot to see who made it, its me. So don't kill me about 'You aliiba this!'].
Operator: I am sorry. This person is talking to (Bella's voice)Edward Cullen. Please leave a message after the tone.
*tone never comes up*
Jacob: OH C'MON!
The inayofuata day.
Jacob: I want Bella NAO!*calls Bella*
(Answering machine): The Swans are out right now, please leave a message after the beep.
[beep never stops]
Jacob: OH C'MON!
The siku after that:
Bella: *makes a new answering machine*
Jacob: *calls*
[Machine]: Hi, its Bella. If its Jacob, stop leaving messages saying "OH C'MON!" and if your not a Cullen au my dad, don't call me. At ALL!
*beep*
Jacob: NOOOOOO!
*beep*
Jacob: ?
*beep beep beep beep*
{This phone will self destruct in 3, 2, 1}
Jacob: OH C'MON!
[Check the TS spot to see who made it, its me. So don't kill me about 'You aliiba this!'].
Created:~Alice~
Q: What to Edward and a krisimasi mti have in common?
A: Their balls are for decoration.
Bella: You're pale white and ice cold...I know what wewe are.
Edward: Say it. Say it!
Bella: Vanilla Ice Cream!
Edward: Bella...
Bella: Yes?
Edward: I just want to know how much wewe mean to me.
Bella: Aaw...
Edward: wewe know, what with me being an ancient VIRGIN vampire and everything...
Bella: Yeah?
Edward: Well, people were starting to think I was, y'know-
Bella: Gay?
Edward: ...
Edward: Old fashioned.
Bella: ...
Bella: Oh.
Q: How do wewe kill a brain?
A: Put it in the same room with Ms Meyer and her vitabu and wait for two minutes.
Q: What did bella say when the shops ran low off the glitter?
A: yeeew!!! Edward wewe suck!!!!
Q: What to Edward and a krisimasi mti have in common?
A: Their balls are for decoration.
Bella: You're pale white and ice cold...I know what wewe are.
Edward: Say it. Say it!
Bella: Vanilla Ice Cream!
Edward: Bella...
Bella: Yes?
Edward: I just want to know how much wewe mean to me.
Bella: Aaw...
Edward: wewe know, what with me being an ancient VIRGIN vampire and everything...
Bella: Yeah?
Edward: Well, people were starting to think I was, y'know-
Bella: Gay?
Edward: ...
Edward: Old fashioned.
Bella: ...
Bella: Oh.
Q: How do wewe kill a brain?
A: Put it in the same room with Ms Meyer and her vitabu and wait for two minutes.
Q: What did bella say when the shops ran low off the glitter?
A: yeeew!!! Edward wewe suck!!!!
Bella Sawn.... Hmmm.
If my bestfreind has loved me, kissed me, tried to ruin my relationship with my boyfriend, i wouldn't be all cool with him loving my child.... including because she's young and his old.
Bella didn't react properly.
I wanted her to get really mad, i wanted Jacob to be banned from seeing Nessie, not have 10 dakika go by, and his aloud to hold her again.
They say wewe dont choose love, upendo choose's you.
I believe in that but Reneseme, didn't get a choice? Somehow this imprinting thing assumes the person the wolfs are going to fall inlove with are going to upendo them back?
In twilight saga this is the thing i do not understand au get no matter how much i try...
and I just felt the need to let that out LOL even though i have so much zaidi i would like to let out.
If my bestfreind has loved me, kissed me, tried to ruin my relationship with my boyfriend, i wouldn't be all cool with him loving my child.... including because she's young and his old.
Bella didn't react properly.
I wanted her to get really mad, i wanted Jacob to be banned from seeing Nessie, not have 10 dakika go by, and his aloud to hold her again.
They say wewe dont choose love, upendo choose's you.
I believe in that but Reneseme, didn't get a choice? Somehow this imprinting thing assumes the person the wolfs are going to fall inlove with are going to upendo them back?
In twilight saga this is the thing i do not understand au get no matter how much i try...
and I just felt the need to let that out LOL even though i have so much zaidi i would like to let out.