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I upendo Belle. I like that she's sweet, brave, willing to see the best in everyone and not afraid to say what she feels no matter what happens. She is the character that reminds me the most of myself. I like Rumple too mainly because of Robert Carlyle. Who can manage be both alluring and incredibly creepy even dressed as a sparkly imp. I've been a devoted fangirl since the Full Monty and OUAT has only encouraged that. However I can't support Rumbelle.

I know that the idea of seeing the best in someone and changing them for the better is very maarufu with most girls. I'll admit I've fallen for the "bad boy" au the "charming rouge" in vitabu and shows on zaidi one occasion but some Rumbelle mashabiki refusal to see that there is anything unhealthy about the relationship is frankly disturbing.

I've had mashabiki say to me and to others:

"Rumbelle is not stockholm syndrome. It in no way fits the parameters of SS and to say that it does shows ignorance on your part. -- wewe seem to be tossing around terms that you’ve heard places au heard other people use, with no bother researching what they mean."

"Belle does not have Stockholm Syndrome! I hate it when people say she has Stockholm Syndrome. It's like people don't know what stockholm syndrome is. Stockholm Syndrome is when someone feels sympathy for their captor and starts falling in upendo with them even when they abuse and torment the person. Belle doesn't fall in upendo with Rumpel until AFTER he changes for the better. And in the Disney movie, she doesn't even start falling in upendo with him until he started being nice.
She doesn't fall in upendo with him until he stops treating her like a prisoner and started treating her like a guest."


Now, before I make my argument here's the official definition of Stockholm Syndrom. I've bolded the parts that are the most relavent.

Stockholm syndrome, au capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger au risk endured kwa the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, au intimidates the other."

Example #1: sometimes to the point of defending them

In season 2 despite her knowing what he is capable of Belle is constantly defending Rumple and calling anyone who mentions the horrible things he has done liars. In "The Outsider" when Hook tells her about him killing Milah she flat out says "he would never do that!" despite seeing him murder and torture in the past.



Example #2: mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness

In "Skin Deep" Rumple is horrible to Belle; physical, verbally and emotionally abusing her. As the story goes on he less horrible. He is not kind he simply stops being quite so mean. He dosent hit her when she drops the cup, he lets her go to the market instead of locking her up in the castle. In "Lacey" he doesn't kill her when she lets Robin go. Notice these are all bad things that he didn't do that are often passed off as acts of kindness kwa the fandom.



Example #3: strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, au intimidates the other.

In the beginning of "Skin Deep" Rumple is abusive, very few people will deny that but even though he does improve slightly she begins to develop feeling for him while he is still holding her captive and inaonyesha abusive tendencies. "Lacey" only confirms this. Then when she kisses him he flys into a rage and goes right back to his earlier abusive self.



The recurring Rumbelle themes "you see the good in me" and "you made me a better man" are catchphrases used kwa abusers since the beginning of time. Why? because of this romantic fairytale idea that "true upendo can turn a bad person good". Abusers use that idea to keep people with them even when that person knows they should leave. It's a lovely idea in fiction but in reality situations like this rarely have happy endings.

I now what your all saying now. "It's just a story. why are wewe making such a big deal out of this?" Yes it's just a story and I have no problem with those mashabiki that enjoy this fictional relationship for what in is, a complex upendo story, but also recognize how potentially unhealthy and dangerous it is. It is the people like those quoted above who are oblivious to its abusive nature that worry me. Tying to pass these tendencies off as romantic could encourage those in harmful relationships to ignore the signs in hopes of "changing them for the better" as Belle did.

till-therewas-you summed it up perfectly in another makala so let me end with her words.

"Look, I get it. The idea that wewe can find a soft spot in every guy, and change him is a ndoto that most girls have. -- But holding the idea that wewe can change a man will just lead to disappointment. Don’t get me wrong, it happens. But it’s the exception, not the rule. The exception. Us women should just look for decent guys that aren’t perfect, but will treat us and other people right."
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I read an makala about spoiler from the new issue of tv guide, it quite interesting:

"TV Guide magazine has zaidi lovely spoilers
for us in their latest edition. Here’s are the
main spoilers:
Regina shot an intense scene with Mr. Gold
in his pawnshop. She had to conceal the
item she took away from the duka in fear
that onlookers would see exactly what
she took.
-Dr. Whale’s past with Regina will be
revealed in episode 5.
-Mary and Emma will quickly find
themselves on an adventure that will test
their bravery and survival skills.
-The seven dwarves, led kwa Grumpy, will
try to hang Regina from her very...
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The afternoon was clear and warm. Emma was jogging down a path through the sun-lit woods, her blonde hair tied back in a long ponytail. She wasn't thrilled about Hook coming along on a jog, but she had agreed to let him tag along. Emma was jogging in a tank juu and shorts, but Hook was wearing his usual black layers. He was also sweating terribly.

"Swan. Swan, slow down," Hook panted, trying to keep up. "Let's give it rest, eh, love?"

But Emma kept up her pace, keeping her eyes firmly on the path ahead of her. "Here, drink some water," she said, giving him her bottle.

Hook took a swig of the bottled...
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