As wewe probably know, the Twilight vs. Harry Potter spot is a debate spot. We come here mainly to debate over which series is better and why, au to discuss why we like one series better than the other, then others can, if they wish, debate the points made in the other persons arguments.
However, there is a difference between debating and fighting.
When wewe debate, wewe are willing to see both sides of an argument. wewe have to understand why the other person is saying what they are saying before wewe debate against their point. Understanding does NOT necessarily mean agreeing. It means "I see why wewe are saying this, and I understand your point." From there, wewe can either say "I agree," in which case wewe could either leave it at that au wewe could continue their point, au wewe could say "I disagree because..."
Furthermore, when wewe debate, wewe must be polite. Once insults begin, wewe are no longer debating. At that point, wewe are fighting.
What is the difference between a maoni of debate and a maoni of fighting?
(I will use an example for both Twilight and Harry Potter, because this particular makala is not for au against one side.)
An argument to support your point could look something like...
"I think Harry Potter is a better book than Twilight because the characters are much better developed than the Twilight characters. For example..." and then the person would go on to give examples and further support their reasoning.
...or...
"I think Twilight is a better book than Harry Potter because I feel that wewe can really get to know the protagonist much better with a first person POV. Furthermore..." and they would continue their argument from there with support and reasoning.
A debating maoni could look something like...
"I see your point, but I must disagree because I believe that Ginny, for example, is a Mary Sue. I think this because..." and the person would give examples and support.
...or...
"I understand what wewe are saying, but I have to disagree because Jacob did force Bella to kiss her against her will, which is technically sexual abuse. Also..." and the person would give examples and support.
A pathetic argument would look like... (and I'll put a few of these because I see them so often)
"Twilight is better than Harry Potter because it just is."
"Twilight is better than Harry Potter because Harry is a nerd. Edward is hot."
...or...
"Harry Potter is better than Twilight because Wanyonya damu don't sparkle."
"Harry Potter is better than Twilight because Edward is a gay sparkly fairy."
An arguing and degrading maoni would look like...
"WHAT ARE wewe TALKING ABOUT? YOU'RE SO STUPID! TWILIGHT IS OBVIOUSLY BETTER THAN HARRY POTTER! YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS! HARRY IS UGLY! EDWARD IS SO HOT! SO JUST SHUT UP!"
...or...
"You're a Twitard, and therefore everything wewe say is stupid. wewe don't know what you're talking about. Twilight sucks, and Harry Potter is awesome, so just deal with it."
The difference between Twilighters and Harry Potter Fans? Here we go...
Twilighters:
Often time, Twilighters are classified as crazy, raving shabiki girls who can't see au think straight. I know this is not necessarily true. However, the reason Twilighters are classified as this is because when Twilighters fight (and I'm not talking about the polite debaters), they often resort down to things such as...
-You're just jealous
-Harry is ugly
-Edward is hot
-Shut up, wewe don't know what you're talking about
-It's just better, so deal with it
Harry Potter Fans:
I often see Harry Potter mashabiki being just as harmful and degrading as Twilight mashabiki (again, not all of you. I've seen plenty of polite and kind Harry Potter fans. But there are quite a few of wewe who aren't so). The difference? Harry Potter mashabiki hide it. They use intelligence and cleverness to snidely shoot very harmful arguments at Twilight fans, which in some ways is worse because it not only insults what is being alisema directly, but it makes the Twilight mashabiki feel stupid. I'm not going to give examples, but I'm pretty sure wewe all know exactly what I'm talking about. (I usually do a good job refraining from this, but every so often someone just ticks me off and I know I am guilty of this. I usually apologize. kwa the way, if any Twilighter feels that I've truly insulted them, not just because they feel they cannot out-debate me, but because I've been downright mean, please tell me, and I'll apologize.)
So please. When we comment, and I'm speaking to both sides here, please respect one another. Otherwise, this is no longer a debate spot, but a hate spot. I think arguing is fine, but hate is not. Thank you. :)
However, there is a difference between debating and fighting.
When wewe debate, wewe are willing to see both sides of an argument. wewe have to understand why the other person is saying what they are saying before wewe debate against their point. Understanding does NOT necessarily mean agreeing. It means "I see why wewe are saying this, and I understand your point." From there, wewe can either say "I agree," in which case wewe could either leave it at that au wewe could continue their point, au wewe could say "I disagree because..."
Furthermore, when wewe debate, wewe must be polite. Once insults begin, wewe are no longer debating. At that point, wewe are fighting.
What is the difference between a maoni of debate and a maoni of fighting?
(I will use an example for both Twilight and Harry Potter, because this particular makala is not for au against one side.)
An argument to support your point could look something like...
"I think Harry Potter is a better book than Twilight because the characters are much better developed than the Twilight characters. For example..." and then the person would go on to give examples and further support their reasoning.
...or...
"I think Twilight is a better book than Harry Potter because I feel that wewe can really get to know the protagonist much better with a first person POV. Furthermore..." and they would continue their argument from there with support and reasoning.
A debating maoni could look something like...
"I see your point, but I must disagree because I believe that Ginny, for example, is a Mary Sue. I think this because..." and the person would give examples and support.
...or...
"I understand what wewe are saying, but I have to disagree because Jacob did force Bella to kiss her against her will, which is technically sexual abuse. Also..." and the person would give examples and support.
A pathetic argument would look like... (and I'll put a few of these because I see them so often)
"Twilight is better than Harry Potter because it just is."
"Twilight is better than Harry Potter because Harry is a nerd. Edward is hot."
...or...
"Harry Potter is better than Twilight because Wanyonya damu don't sparkle."
"Harry Potter is better than Twilight because Edward is a gay sparkly fairy."
An arguing and degrading maoni would look like...
"WHAT ARE wewe TALKING ABOUT? YOU'RE SO STUPID! TWILIGHT IS OBVIOUSLY BETTER THAN HARRY POTTER! YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS! HARRY IS UGLY! EDWARD IS SO HOT! SO JUST SHUT UP!"
...or...
"You're a Twitard, and therefore everything wewe say is stupid. wewe don't know what you're talking about. Twilight sucks, and Harry Potter is awesome, so just deal with it."
The difference between Twilighters and Harry Potter Fans? Here we go...
Twilighters:
Often time, Twilighters are classified as crazy, raving shabiki girls who can't see au think straight. I know this is not necessarily true. However, the reason Twilighters are classified as this is because when Twilighters fight (and I'm not talking about the polite debaters), they often resort down to things such as...
-You're just jealous
-Harry is ugly
-Edward is hot
-Shut up, wewe don't know what you're talking about
-It's just better, so deal with it
Harry Potter Fans:
I often see Harry Potter mashabiki being just as harmful and degrading as Twilight mashabiki (again, not all of you. I've seen plenty of polite and kind Harry Potter fans. But there are quite a few of wewe who aren't so). The difference? Harry Potter mashabiki hide it. They use intelligence and cleverness to snidely shoot very harmful arguments at Twilight fans, which in some ways is worse because it not only insults what is being alisema directly, but it makes the Twilight mashabiki feel stupid. I'm not going to give examples, but I'm pretty sure wewe all know exactly what I'm talking about. (I usually do a good job refraining from this, but every so often someone just ticks me off and I know I am guilty of this. I usually apologize. kwa the way, if any Twilighter feels that I've truly insulted them, not just because they feel they cannot out-debate me, but because I've been downright mean, please tell me, and I'll apologize.)
So please. When we comment, and I'm speaking to both sides here, please respect one another. Otherwise, this is no longer a debate spot, but a hate spot. I think arguing is fine, but hate is not. Thank you. :)
